Overlanding is: "Vehicle Dependent Travel". Nothing else. We will not further define "overlanding".

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Full time "overlander" or homeless?
Not much difference aside from price of gear.
Maybe we should invite them to the community too they'd probably have more to contribute.

 

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Now THAT'S "overlanding" eh mate? That guy on the far right is the boss and he's explaining to them that they don't need winches, and that those vintage Rotopax are spensive so don't get them shot up View attachment 186536
Oh good gravy... just opened up a box of back issue hobby magazines and look at the pic on the cover of one of them.

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"Do I need an electric winch" (or some such similar), the OP asks what is seemingly a valid question,
I have no issues with a question like this and the responses to the question were all excellent. The answers added context.

The last thing I want to see is a bunch of lawyers.... or english teachers policing the questions.
 

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Hmmm, this thread isn't going exactly as I had hoped, but maybe we can get some of this out of the way and move on.
obviously you had unrealistic expectations
use of the responses you see should guide future discussions

and quit coming in hoping to make a point.
now hopefully we can move on
 
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From what I understand, you are referring to those who ask questions such as "I have a truck, what type of tires should I buy", or they might even add "to go overlanding".

That is a very broad question that's going to get so many answers it'll muddy the waters so bad it's useless.

It would be better (at least from my own experience) if the person would ask it more or less in the following way.

"I have a 4×4 truck that I'd like to start using more when I go camping/exploring. Right now it's my daily driver and has (tire size) stock tires on it. I'm not planning on using it as a rock crawler or doing any extreme offloading; mainly just logging type roads or across farm fields and pastures. I'm not planning on adding a lift kit and will still be using it as a daily driver. Are there any tires you'd recommend? If additional details are needed, let me know."

Is this more what your thinking?
see this is excellent for guys who have been around trucks and camping and overlanding for years.....
But if yer a newguy without a clue......

"I have a truck, what type of tires should I buy"

this ^^^^ is an excellent question, just ask for more info.... I'll bet the OP who is honestly seeking sincere advice will gladly provide it.
and if you think he is a simpleton not worthy of yer time..... well move along.
 

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Hi, new guy here. I picked up on the YouTube channel, watched Michael’s videos, seen the Trail Recon videos, found a bunch of other videos, and decided to join and become a member here.

I drive a Jeep, I love road trips, I’ve slept in my Jeep. I’ve driven from Tampa, FL to DFW, TX in a weekend to get a horse cart, taken old Georgia back road to South Carolina, taken a longer trip FL, TX, TN and home.

I’ve taken a Toyota Camry to the Palo Duro Canyon, and from Amarillo to Santa Fe. I’ve traveled interstates and US Highways, backroads and dirt roads.

It’s all overlanding.

I’m buying a Bronco, I’ve bought a RTT, an awning, a solar generator, a Skottle, I’ve made purchases in the last two months that many of you may think is unnecessary.

There will be new roads traveled, from trails and fire roads, to BLM lands and more camping.

It’s still overlanding.

But if someone posts a question about the best RTT, or what a locker does, or what AT tires are best for daily driving, they are coming here to ask advice. Nobody knows everything. And while some people may become elitist, or become annoyed with the questions. You can ignore those posts and move on.

Someone wants to camp more instead of day trips or other things, be inclusive. Tell your stories, if you don’t like the questions, don’t answer them. Move on.

I’m proud to put the Overland Bound badge on my new car. I’m excited to share my experiences with you, and with new people. I want to build my new rig into something that will create conversations about it, and this community, something that someone who is unsure or someone who wants to take camping to the next level, to take road trips to the next level, who wants to drive more trails, connect more with nature.

Just wanted to share my views on this community, and I hope to connect with y’all in positive and great ways!
Well said:)
 

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I think some here are missing the point of the post... it's not that anyone is trying to redefine "overlanding," it's that the term isn't really a valid descriptor for what people do in the context of answering gear questions.

Overlanding is about as descriptive as 'woodworking' as a hobby. Asking if a winch is necessary or which winch is best is like asking the same questions about a circular saw. You can have the F-word on the high end and a Harbor Freight on the bottom with the elitists sticking to real woodworkers only use hand tools. It's all about how you want to work and what you're trying to do and as has been made clear, when you lump lifted Jeeps in with a Toyota Prius, the only way to answer "do I need xx to overland" is it depends.

All OP is asking (and I've echoed this elsewhere) is that people (1) are more specific regarding their use case, and (2) both moderators and members enforce this principle to ensure the same questions that pop up in here every other week don't devolve into the usual "I don't need this so you don't either" vs "I go harder and need it so you should have it too".
 

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I think the vagueness in questions comes literally from a lack of understanding, the what tires should I use is a perfect example. Guys who have been around vehicles, and working on them for years know you need to provide what vehicle, how will it be used, is it dry or wet, sand or rock etc. But you have to learn before you know to ask the right questions, I tend to be patient until the person turns out to be a dolt, I assume they do not know and answer as best I can.

@Correus I get the whole you own a Land Rover you must have money thing, people look at my D2 and assume it is worth a ton.
 

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I think some here are missing the point of the post... it's not that anyone is trying to redefine "overlanding," it's that the term isn't really a valid descriptor for what people do in the context of answering gear questions.

Overlanding is about as descriptive as 'woodworking' as a hobby. Asking if a winch is necessary or which winch is best is like asking the same questions about a circular saw. You can have the F-word on the high end and a Harbor Freight on the bottom with the elitists sticking to real woodworkers only use hand tools. It's all about how you want to work and what you're trying to do and as has been made clear, when you lump lifted Jeeps in with a Toyota Prius, the only way to answer "do I need xx to overland" is it depends.

All OP is asking (and I've echoed this elsewhere) is that people (1) are more specific regarding their use case, and (2) both moderators and members enforce this principle to ensure the same questions that pop up in here every other week don't devolve into the usual "I don't need this so you don't either" vs "I go harder and need it so you should have it too".
Winner winner, chicken dinner.
 

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I'm not sure how if you have a 50k rig you can act like your the same as a 20k or less rig. Same with experience vs none.
We will talk about electric winches and the little guys claim a hi lift is where its at for winching.
If your inexperienced don't argue with someone who has experience that there is one huge problem I see on nearly every single post.

Same thing with posts about lift vs stock or bigger tires vs stock or a/t vs m/t tires. Easy to figure out who really goes off-road and who sticks to highways

Let's say your in the NFL would you feel right playing NFL ball with a junior varsity high-school team?
I think this is exactly the kind if elitist attitude that so many complain about now.
 

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I think this is exactly the kind if elitist attitude that so many complain about now.
No its called knowing where you belong, know your roll, stay in your lane, etc.

By your logic everything I have to talk about will apply to a Subaru outback which is wrong the only thing my truck has in common with a subie is we would both have a turbocharger and a 12v battery everything else is different.

Never said that soft roaders have no place here but I do believe we need segregation from each other. And I think that ob thinks the same since they had to add full sized truck section and 2wd section.
 
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