No more generators in California?

[SWLands]

My partner and I were joking that the real impacts of this won't be felt until the people in cities who push this legislation start having to face HOA fines over landscaping because their favorite small business landscaper stopped doing doing residential work because it stopped being profitable. Maybe if that happens something will change.

I am a retired CA landscaper and this issue has been coming for decades. It was talked about in the 90's. And I see plenty of battery powered options for city residential work. What will get to them is the power going off and no portable generator options. It seems to me they are pushing stationary generators, as they are exempt, as is diesel. Propane seems included as the term is "spark-ignition engines".

 

[rho]

OOPS, sorry.
I've been following the solar/windpower infrastructure issue for a couple of decades. One of my too many pet peeves.

Yeah... Its been an total cluster for as long as I remember here...

 

[mep1811]

The sad truth of the matter is most people have no idea where electricity comes from. They think it is magic.

 

[EBasil]

The sad truth of the matter is most people have no idea where electricity comes from. They think it is magic.

It is magic. It comes from Santa.

Don't ruin things, bro.

 

[Sparksalot]

The sad truth of the matter is most people have no idea where electricity comes from. They think it is magic.

FM

 

[Deleted member 82267]

Way off topic but just as absurd. Coal plants in Wyoming routinely use Generators. Why, because super smart people force the coal plant to idle down and provide a percentage of power from renewable energy. So when the wind power is in use it does not provide enough power but diesel generators (not coal) are allowed to make up for the lack of power and are emissions exempt when helping with wind power!! This is the illusion of clean energy.

 

[MidOH]

Weird. Isn't this exactly what ya'll wanted in California?

 

[Billiebob]

I only read a bit of it, but logging, falling, forestry will not be affected since it only applies to those engines under 45cc... and fallers chainsaws are closer to 70cc.
This is aimed at the residential user, not the commercial user. There are plenty of exemptions if you make yer living with ICE tools.

From the comments posted, it does not apply to propane powered gensets either, which is what our backup generator is.

 

[Tundracamper]

Sorry, but I just can’t help but laugh. You reap what you sow…

 

[Tundracamper]

Its more than possible to make them more efficient.

Yes, because everyone wants to spend $4,000 on a 1 kW generator. Consumers don’t care how much fuel current generators use for a given load - not

 

[Tundracamper]

Not here in Missouri. At least not in my lifetime. The term "except in california" has been meaningless for decades in the parts business. Those folks can play stupid all they want but there's zero impact on anyone .1" from the state line.
Zim

In Alabama, we generally look at what CA does, and then immediately do the opposite.

 

[bgenlvtex]

I would routinely disregard their laws that I find to be inconvenient, in much the same way they disregard laws they find inconvenient.

I suppose though I could put a 8mm port in the housing of my Honda, put a "SOLAR" sticker on it and plug a solar panel into it so when Karen sees it she'll think it's solar and not call the eco-stasi.

Modern problems call for modern solutions.

 

[bgenlvtex]

The sad truth of the matter is most people have no idea where electricity comes from. They think it is magic.

Angry Pixies for the win!

 

[MidOH]

"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, but has a moral obligation to do so.''
-Thomas Jefferson

 

[mep1811]

Way off topic but just as absurd. Coal plants in Wyoming routinely use Generators. Why, because super smart people force the coal plant to idle down and provide a percentage of power from renewable energy. So when the wind power is in use it does not provide enough power but diesel generators (not coal) are allowed to make up for the lack of power and are emissions exempt when helping with wind power!! This is the illusion of clean energy.

Another dirty secret is the amount of grid supplied electricity a windmill needs to work.

 

[Billiebob]

Doom and gloom reminds me of the banning of the 2 stroke outboard 30 years ago. Evinrude and Mercury both claiming we can't do it, the engines will be too heavy...... then someone realized Europe had banned the 2 stroke a decade earlier and they were already selling 4 stroke outboards.

Doom and gloom but how many of us would pick a 2 stroke outboard today.

 

[genocache]

I think you guys are missing the point. My neighbors already have battery operated leaf blowers. I still do it the old fashioned way with a BROOM! Probably 80% of people in my Valley have home generators for when the power goes out. I bought mine in 94. So when the gas small engines are banned and the power goes out we can just drive our fully charged 'letric trucks(fossil fuel power being banned) up to the ol homestead and power it for the duration. Then cause we live on the Best Coast all the pollution from the power generating plants will blow East while we have fresh air off the Mighty Pacific, which only slightly will dilute all the poison air coming from China's factories....................."Breathe deep while you sleep, breathe deep, deep, cough, cough, cough....."

Dumb Polyannas.

 

[MidOH]

Best coast has needles littering the beach, and smells like poo. And if I step on the wrong rock, Snake will want to cut me. Canceled, with objections from the missus, our west coast plans (again). Way too much weirdness. Catalytic convertors on cows yet?

Going to key west instead. Only have to worry about chicks with wicks there. A bit safer. And no masks.

 

[smritte]

Yes, because everyone wants to spend $4,000 on a 1 kW generator. Consumers don’t care how much fuel current generators use for a given load - not

Only if you don't understand how its done. Does the consumer care? no. But take something away, add in a new rule and things change.

Will the generator business do that? No. Does the public care? No. Did I say making them more efficient was practical? No, Its not.

I was however commenting on a statement about whether idling your car to generate power was a good thing.

 

[North American Sojourner]

In Alabama, we generally look at what CA does, and then immediately do the opposite.

Phucking EPIC!!
LMAO
Zim