What is the difference of full-time overlanding?

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While there are many differences in what the term "Overlanding" means, multi-year or full-time does tend to mean the same for those that do it. No matter one's experience level when setting off on a very long overlanding journey we all end up being much more conservative in our route choices. Our initial fantastical imagination, many times, results in an overbuilt rig for what it will be subjected to. I don't watch many overland YouTube channels because they are more deceit than truth. One particular episode from a channel that does a decent job happens to capture the raw essence of the difference when full-time overlanding. If you don't want to watch the entire thing just listen to Kelsey from 22:20.
 
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Yes & yes, I know that because our home is Me-Shell, we will not be going to a lot of places that we previously ventured to in our
80 series. Our planning will be on point and we will be taking the proverbial fork in the road a little less often. Very wise words from a very young Kelsey! Some would say a stock 350 to be under built, but I would say that some full sized full time trucks are way overbuilt.
 
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Yes & yes, I know that because our home is Me-Shell, we will not be going to a lot of places that we previously ventured to in our
80 series. Our planning will be on point and we will be taking the proverbial fork in the road a little less often. Very wise words from a very young Kelsey! Some would say a stock 350 to be under built, but I would say that some full sized full time trucks are way overbuilt.
We were surprised at how a strong rear end and decent torque took us through lots of stuff the smaller (lighter) rigs had to use 4wd. We felt bad recommending a hot spring to friends in a Montero that barely made it in 4-lo, we drove it in 2wd without issue...twice. The flip side is we always find the bottom and the smaller rigs just seem to glide on the surface, like on sandy beaches. We would be plowing along in 4wd as a 2wd Kombi goes bimbling by without a care.
 

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After only three nites in our new unit I’m thankful that we were somewhat experienced as long range part timers. All the little cubby holes & stowage spaces have filled up fast with a commonsencical approach. For example- my big heavy tool bag has found its way to the very bottom of a compartment beneath the dinette booth seats. Whereas before, with our expo trailer and old Landcruiser is was kept handy. Why? I’ll very rarely be using anything in that bag as we now have a brand new truck with a very long warranty. The same can be said for my electronics tool bag. A few tools I keep handy- pliers, screwdrivers, side cutters, pocket knives, hatchets etc. We are a little taken aback at the quality, or lack thereof the mattress. Even with the Froli system beneath it, it remains as hard as a rock which is good for back sleepers, which we are not. I’ve ordered a HEST mattress, with confidence that it is money well spent for a good nights sleep. So far- so good.
 
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After only three nites in our new unit I’m thankful that we were somewhat experienced as long range part timers. All the little cubby holes & stowage spaces have filled up fast with a commonsencical approach. For example- my big heavy tool bag has found its way to the very bottom of a compartment beneath the dinette booth seats. Whereas before, with our expo trailer and old Landcruiser is was kept handy. Why? I’ll very rarely be using anything in that bag as we now have a brand new truck with a very long warranty. The same can be said for my electronics tool bag. A few tools I keep handy- pliers, screwdrivers, side cutters, pocket knives, hatchets etc. We are a little taken aback at the quality, or lack thereof the mattress. Even with the Froli system beneath it, it remains as hard as a rock which is good for back sleepers, which we are not. I’ve ordered a HEST mattress, with confidence that it is money well spent for a good nights sleep. So far- so good.
It's a house more than a vehicle :wink:. I remember when a friend of ours, on a Pan-Am specific group, had recommended a fridge over long travel and was flamed by members who had never driven through even one of the countries that encompass the Pan-Am (let alone a foreign one). I'm not saying they didn't have any "experience" but they definitely didn't have any experience necessary to advise others about full-time or multi-year travel. This is true for the vast majority of "professional" builders of Overland rigs. It's easy to find people who've had no problems with their rig that only rolls around the US but it's also easy to find those whose rig fell apart south of the border. Assumptions don't cut it no matter how smart someone thinks they are, you'd think they'd hire former long-term overlanders as product developers.

When we started out we had our gear separated by type, within 2 weeks we had rearranged and jumbled everything together by usage. You can tell the length of one's trip by their organization system. Those beautiful, perfectly segregated, and clean set-ups in videos are just for YouTube. If at some point you ain't digging for that item you know that you have (had an excuse to keep), you haven't been out that long...or are completely disorganized. We've helped, and have been helped ourselves, to rummage through every bin and bag to locate that long lost but (in that moment) essential item. After a period of time, it's different for everyone, a "nevers" bin is established. It's great fun in camp to go through and have to explain the reasoning behind everything in each couples/persons nevers bin. Even though we have pulled off the road, we still keep the essentials tool kit in the console of the van. On a recent project I had to go to the van to get a wrench that lives in the essentials kit. It took three years but I finally realized I can buy a duplicate wrench to keep with my main set of tools, no limit of space or weight...what.

It's great to hear you're off to a good start. Best advice is to go slow.
 

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After only three nites in our new unit I’m thankful that we were somewhat experienced as long range part timers. All the little cubby holes & stowage spaces have filled up fast with a commonsencical approach. For example- my big heavy tool bag has found its way to the very bottom of a compartment beneath the dinette booth seats. Whereas before, with our expo trailer and old Landcruiser is was kept handy. Why? I’ll very rarely be using anything in that bag as we now have a brand new truck with a very long warranty. The same can be said for my electronics tool bag. A few tools I keep handy- pliers, screwdrivers, side cutters, pocket knives, hatchets etc. We are a little taken aback at the quality, or lack thereof the mattress. Even with the Froli system beneath it, it remains as hard as a rock which is good for back sleepers, which we are not. I’ve ordered a HEST mattress, with confidence that it is money well spent for a good nights sleep. So far- so good.
It's a house more than a vehicle :wink:. I remember when a friend of ours, on a Pan-Am specific group, had recommended a fridge over long travel and was flamed by members who had never driven through even one of the countries that encompass the Pan-Am (let alone a foreign one). I'm not saying they didn't have any "experience" but they definitely didn't have any experience necessary to advise others about full-time or multi-year travel. This is true for the vast majority of "professional" builders of Overland rigs. It's easy to find people who've had no problems with their rig that only rolls around the US but it's also easy to find those whose rig fell apart south of the border. Assumptions don't cut it no matter how smart someone thinks they are, you'd think they'd hire former long-term overlanders as product developers.

When we started out we had our gear separated by type, within 2 weeks we had rearranged and jumbled everything together by usage. You can tell the length of one's trip by their organization system. Those beautiful, perfectly segregated, and clean set-ups in videos are just for YouTube. If at some point you ain't digging for that item you know that you have (had an excuse to keep), you haven't been out that long...or are completely disorganized. We've helped, and have been helped ourselves, to rummage through every bin and bag to locate that long lost but (in that moment) essential item. After a period of time, it's different for everyone, a "nevers" bin is established. It's great fun in camp to go through and have to explain the reasoning behind everything in each couples/persons nevers bin. Even though we have pulled off the road, we still keep the essentials tool kit in the console of the van. On a recent project I had to go to the van to get a wrench that lives in the essentials kit. It took three years but I finally realized I can buy a duplicate wrench to keep with my main set of tools, no limit of space or weight...what.

It's great to hear you're off to a good start. Best advice is to go slow.
Find so much of this to be true. Been a little over 2.5 years thave Ive been out and everything has changed so much since I started. I am strictly in the US, border crossing wont be happening for me unfortunately. I had a never bin and when i wemt through it to try amd justify the reason for something I couldnt as there was something else that did the same job and more that was more readily available. Ive likely dropped about 40% of what I started with. I also move around a lot less than most, trying to stay in a place for 2ish weeks (BLM/NF length of time in a camp site and my eater limit). With that I also work remote so I have other needs that I have other dont that are taken into account.

I do recommend staying at a place for more than a few days to really enjoy it and everything there is around. When full timing there are much less contraints on places to be at a certain time (at least in my situation)