Unlimited Self Sustained power!!! 2013 Tacoma High Output Alternator & Bluetti Charger1 install

[lolzhax]

Now after many calls to bluetti they finally told me about the DC050s which will allow me to run my solar to the AC port. Not too stoked about spending another $200, but at least I don't have question if what I'm running is safe or not hahah. I do wish I realized the new diesel heaters come with DC to AC adapters. The only thing bluetti had on ecoflow is that the DC output has a 24amp plug, where as ecoflows was capped at 10 amp on the delta 2 max that I picked up. I have an older Hcalory diesel heater, so I didn't know. They are really ironing out all the complexities it seems with all of this stuff. My friend got the newer version hcalory diesel heater. Thing came fully assembled. Mine came in a million pieces with no instruction hahah. even had to drill through the fuel tank and run the line myself. Things are going to be so simple soon, and it's crazy how much more affordabe all of this stuff is getting, seemingly faster than any other domain. Solar generators and panels that is. Everything else seems to just get more expensive hahah

That's great news from Bluetti. Finally a solution forward.

I had a Vevor diesel heater for a few years now that I've run off an EcoFlow 500Wh in my tent and I actually just purchased an LF Bros N2-T model. The LF Bros feels so solid and well put together, and it's not much bigger than my 50cal ammo can fire pit. Diesel heaters are coming a long way.

I was under the impression that only inefficient / poorly assembled heaters would pull more than 10amp at startup. I've been lucky that there has never been an issue running my cheapo Vevor diesel heater from my EcoFlow. lol

 

[Dave in AZ]

I was under the impression that only inefficient / poorly assembled heaters would pull more than 10amp at startup. I've been lucky that there has never been an issue running my cheapo Vevor diesel heater from my EcoFlow. lol

Not at all, reverse even. The glowplug pulls a lot, to ensure a fast reliable start. And then the fuel pump and fan also. So on my 8kw Vevor, startup they can pull 120W-130W, 10-12A depending on 12v voltage. Then in about 4 to 6 minutes, glow plug turns off and it just uses 22W to 60W depending on fan speed. Most all of them will fault out if your powerstation can't supply 12v and a solid 10A... so powerstations with a single 10A dc output that you also need for lights etc, can ne sketchy to start these.

I like my Vevor pretty good, had it a year now, has run for 10 to 12 hr at a time, probably 30 times, all flawlessly.

 

[lolzhax]

Not at all, reverse even. The glowplug pulls a lot, to ensure a fast reliable start. And then the fuel pump and fan also. So on my 8kw Vevor, startup they can pull 120W-130W, 10-12A depending on 12v voltage. Then in about 4 to 6 minutes, glow plug turns off and it just uses 22W to 60W depending on fan speed. Most all of them will fault out if your powerstation can't supply 12v and a solid 10A... so powerstations with a single 10A dc output that you also need for lights etc, can ne sketchy to start these.

I like my Vevor pretty good, had it a year now, has run for 10 to 12 hr at a time, probably 30 times, all flawlessly.

I have the 8kw Vevor also and it's been great. I run it on the 12v cigarette lighter (from an EcoFlow 500Wh) on the lowest setting all night long and we stay nice and warm. It burns somewhere between 1/3 - 1/2 it's tank per night.


I "upgraded" to the 5kw LF Bros over black friday but haven't tested it out yet. It has a nicer feel so hopefully it proves to be a good one.
I'd like to have the ability to run that off the cigarette lighter in a pinch but I'm going to wire it to some LifePO4 batteries with a decent wire and higher amp fuse.

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

I have the 8kw Vevor also and it's been great. I run it on the 12v cigarette lighter (from an EcoFlow 500Wh) on the lowest setting all night long and we stay nice and warm. It burns somewhere between 1/3 - 1/2 it's tank per night.


I "upgraded" to the 5kw LF Bros over black friday but haven't tested it out yet. It has a nicer feel so hopefully it proves to be a good one.
I'd like to have the ability to run that off the cigarette lighter in a pinch but I'm going to wire it to some LifePO4 batteries with a decent wire and higher amp fuse.

My friend was able to run his new Hcalory 6kw diesel heater on the 10amp cigarette lighter! We ran it from my first to see if getting it up to temp would help first, so not sure how much that helped. he forgot his wiring for it, and he usually uses the ac adapter. fortunately my fridge had the same dc wiring we were able to use for it.

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

I have the 8kw Vevor also and it's been great. I run it on the 12v cigarette lighter (from an EcoFlow 500Wh) on the lowest setting all night long and we stay nice and warm. It burns somewhere between 1/3 - 1/2 it's tank per night.


I "upgraded" to the 5kw LF Bros over black friday but haven't tested it out yet. It has a nicer feel so hopefully it proves to be a good one.
I'd like to have the ability to run that off the cigarette lighter in a pinch but I'm going to wire it to some LifePO4 batteries with a decent wire and higher amp fuse.

I also watched my hcalory metrics as I was curious about it. There was over 5 times on start up that it went to 10.5,10.7 amps. Sometimes touching 11. it was always for a second, but wonder if most could handle the surge. As it is mentioned, you just need to make it past the startup phase. They do have the adapters now, so if I were in your shoes, id pickup one of the dc to ac adapters just to be safe. Losing your heat source is no fun hahah

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

Not at all, reverse even. The glowplug pulls a lot, to ensure a fast reliable start. And then the fuel pump and fan also. So on my 8kw Vevor, startup they can pull 120W-130W, 10-12A depending on 12v voltage. Then in about 4 to 6 minutes, glow plug turns off and it just uses 22W to 60W depending on fan speed. Most all of them will fault out if your powerstation can't supply 12v and a solid 10A... so powerstations with a single 10A dc output that you also need for lights etc, can ne sketchy to start these.

I like my Vevor pretty good, had it a year now, has run for 10 to 12 hr at a time, probably 30 times, all flawlessly.

Is yours a metal body fully contained? I'd much prefer the tank to be inside of the unit. Next unit will have to be self contained for me

 

[lolzhax]

I also watched my hcalory metrics as I was curious about it. There was over 5 times on start up that it went to 10.5,10.7 amps. Sometimes touching 11. it was always for a second, but wonder if most could handle the surge. As it is mentioned, you just need to make it past the startup phase. They do have the adapters now, so if I were in your shoes, id pickup one of the dc to ac adapters just to be safe. Losing your heat source is no fun hahah

The LF Bros included the adapter actually so I have it already and I'm actually in the process of building out a separate power system. 2 12v 100ah batteries (providing roughly 2500wh) with 200w solar on top of my RTT should provide a lot of power.

I'm going to direct wire the diesel heater into a QD outlet to the batteries with some heavier wire and a 20a fuse.

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

The LF Bros included the adapter actually so I have it already and I'm actually in the process of building out a separate power system. 2 12v 100ah batteries (providing roughly 2500wh) with 200w solar on top of my RTT should provide a lot of power.

I'm going to direct wire the diesel heater into a QD outlet to the batteries with some heavier wire and a 20a fuse.

ahhhh ok, sounds like you're more then set then! Yeah my bluetti ac200p is 140ah and the most i ever used overnight with the heater was 30% for over a 10 hour run on a high setting

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

Fuse and wiring, have had a few inquiries about these

 

[lolzhax]

Jeep JK wiring.

The smaller gauge wiring isn't my work, it's something I let a shop do last year. It's on my to-do list to clean that up.

 

[Thetimelesstaco]

Jeep JK wiring.

The smaller gauge wiring isn't my work, it's something I let a shop do last year. It's on my to-do list to clean that up.

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Nice! what alternator are you running?

 

[lolzhax]

Nice! what alternator are you running?

The Jeep Gladiator with the "Max Towing" package comes with a 240amp alternator and it's a direct swap with the JK Jeep Wrangler, so I just bought the gladiator alternator on Ebay and swapped it into my Jeep JKU with new 1/0 power cables and a 300a fuse.

 

[Outdoordog]

I did the same thing with the EcoFlow 800w Alternator Charger and their Delta 2 Max. Upgraded my Jeep JK's alternator to a 240watt version from a JL Gladiator with the max tow package.

I can recharge 2000Wh in just over 2 hours but realistically I'll never need to charge the full 2000Wh at once because it never gets that low..

I gave away all the portable solar panels because I'm confident with the rate of charging and how often I drive, that I will never slow charge this device off of solar ever again.

Did you install it yourself? I've always been curious about doing this but not a fan of doing electrical work.
Also only have a delta 2, and no plans for 2000wh yet. I have a 120w panel that keeps the delta 2 topped off for the most part, just an alpicool fridge/freezer.

 

[lolzhax]

Did you install it yourself? I've always been curious about doing this but not a fan of doing electrical work.
Also only have a delta 2, and no plans for 2000wh yet. I have a 120w panel that keeps the delta 2 topped off for the most part, just an alpicool fridge/freezer.

Yeah I did it myself. 12v electrical is pretty easy stuff.

The EcoFlow alternator comes with everything you need.
JeepCables . com sells all the battery wires if you need to upgrade your alternator but it looks like you have a JL so that might not be necessary.

From there, it's basically just running cables. There's already ring terminals and inline fuses where they're needed.

 

[Outdoordog]

Yeah I did it myself. 12v electrical is pretty easy stuff.

The EcoFlow alternator comes with everything you need.
JeepCables . com sells all the battery wires if you need to upgrade your alternator but it looks like you have a JL so that might not be necessary.

From there, it's basically just running cables. There's already ring terminals and inline fuses where they're needed.

Ah that's good to know.
I may attempt to do this.
I have an ecoflow wave2 and want to experiment with the AC when it gets warmer. Thing eats a lot of juice.

 

[Hemobreak]

Yeah I did it myself. 12v electrical is pretty easy stuff.

The EcoFlow alternator comes with everything you need.
JeepCables . com sells all the battery wires if you need to upgrade your alternator but it looks like you have a JL so that might not be necessary.

From there, it's basically just running cables. There's already ring terminals and inline fuses where they're needed.

Ah that's good to know.
I may attempt to do this.
I have an ecoflow wave2 and want to experiment with the AC when it gets warmer. Thing eats a lot of juice.

I have an ECOFLOW Delta2 Max and a Wave2. Running off a Bluetti Charger 1 using the stock alternator on 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro, the Delta2 Max charges at the maximum setting for the Bluetti, 57v@10A. However the Wave2 would not work. I also have a Victron DC-DC 24V/20A which powers the Wave2 properly. Wondering if anyone has been succesful using the Bluetti with the Wave2. Currently use the Delts2 Max AC output for the Wave2.

 

[lolzhax]

I have an ECOFLOW Delta2 Max and a Wave2. Running off a Bluetti Charger 1 using the stock alternator on 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro, the Delta2 Max charges at the maximum setting for the Bluetti, 57v@10A. However the Wave2 would not work. I also have a Victron DC-DC 24V/20A which powers the Wave2 properly. Wondering if anyone has been succesful using the Bluetti with the Wave2. Currently use the Delts2 Max AC output for the Wave2.

That's pretty cool that the bluetti charger can charge the Ecoflow devices. I'm pretty sure EcoFlow charger isn't compatible with anything else.

I think the max output on the Bluetti is 500w and EcoFlow is 800w. My OEM alternator can handle 500w charging without a voltage dip but wouldn't do 800w and I wanted peak power output... the JKU alternator is pretty small at 140amp.

You can pick up a factory JT "Max Tow" Alternator (240amp) for about 200 bucks on eBay so that seemed worth it.

 

[lolzhax]

Ah that's good to know.
I may attempt to do this.
I have an ecoflow wave2 and want to experiment with the AC when it gets warmer. Thing eats a lot of juice.

It's easy on the Jeep. Driver side has a hole through the firewall already. You can just go directly to the plastic panels on driver side and run the wire along the floor. Super easy to either lift or pop those panels out. A cheap set of trim removal tools could be helpful.

 

[smritte]

The Jeep Gladiator with the "Max Towing" package comes with a 240amp alternator and it's a direct swap with the JK Jeep Wrangler, so I just bought the gladiator alternator on Ebay and swapped it into my Jeep JKU with new 1/0 power cables and a 300a fuse.

I'm seriously impressed with that output for a factory alternator. Good job Jeep. Toyota high end is around 150 depending on what vehicle and options. In my opinion, 150 is minimum if you have dual batteries.
I have been building custom high end alternators for decades. I started doing this back in the 80's due to factory systems have never been up to par for most of what we do, especially once you add a few batteries in a trailer. Alternator welding systems were easy to mod in also.
The last few years have seen the manufacture's finally stepping up to the plate. There's still a few holdouts using older designs but, its getting better.
I'll throw this out there for anyone looking to upgrade. The latest generation uses what's called "hairpin" windings. That gives us more power and at a lower RPM, in a small case. As far as I know, there's still only one manufacture of these windings so far. What that means is you can price shop. The builders get the parts from the same place. Unfortunately, I don't have access to these parts anymore.

 

[lolzhax]

I'm seriously impressed with that output for a factory alternator. Good job Jeep. Toyota high end is around 150 depending on what vehicle and options. In my opinion, 150 is minimum if you have dual batteries.
I have been building custom high end alternators for decades. I started doing this back in the 80's due to factory systems have never been up to par for most of what we do, especially once you add a few batteries in a trailer. Alternator welding systems were easy to mod in also.
The last few years have seen the manufacture's finally stepping up to the plate. There's still a few holdouts using older designs but, its getting better.
I'll throw this out there for anyone looking to upgrade. The latest generation uses what's called "hairpin" windings. That gives us more power and at a lower RPM, in a small case. As far as I know, there's still only one manufacture of these windings so far. What that means is you can price shop. The builders get the parts from the same place. Unfortunately, I don't have access to these parts anymore.

Great info. I don't know much about it, just what I've figured out from Google University and browsing the forums. Learning and figuring it out as I go.