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We love ours. It's our second one. The first one had the CVT and I hated it. Next one has the 6sp regular auto and it's a night and day difference!
Enthusiast III
The CVT is such a hot garbage pizza in any application. I'm in the process of fluffing up my wife's Versa we can sell it off before the CVT grenades.We love ours. It's our second one. The first one had the CVT and I hated it. Next one has the 6sp regular auto and it's a night and day difference!
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Yep. agree. some people who own them praise them up for some god awful reason. Even though they have replaced theirs like 3 times each. I have one in my audi A4 now and it's slowly dying. After it's gone, the car is worthless.The CVT is such a hot garbage pizza in any application. I'm in the process of fluffing up my wife's Versa we can sell it off before the CVT grenades.
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Agreed. I am a current JK Unlimited and Jeep Patriot owner. The bronco and sport are two worthy upgrades for us. I was'nt impressed with the JL. I drove the JL and JK back to back and bought another JK.It looks really good. Made me think about selling my Jeep. Even when the Jeep JL and JT(truck) came out, I wasn't impressed even after just buying a JK, but this bronco was a head turner for me.
That's what I'm sweating, too. This thing already squeals a bit in overdrive and slips on a hill, it's just a matter of time before it's a brick.Yep. agree. some people who own them praise them up for some god awful reason. Even though they have replaced theirs like 3 times each. I have one in my audi A4 now and it's slowly dying. After it's gone, the car is worthless.
Yeah, all I can really say that's right about the JL is that they fixed the JK's face, otherwise it's still just a JK with a diesel option and lighter frame.It looks really good. Made me think about selling my Jeep. Even when the Jeep JL and JT(truck) came out, I wasn't impressed even after just buying a JK, but this bronco was a head turner for me.
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I'm with you there! Looking at the Bronco, all I could think was what great overland vehicle this is. Can't wait to see all the accessories come out in the next year for this.Agreed. I am a current JK Unlimited and Jeep Patriot owner. The bronco and sport are two worthy upgrades for us. I was'nt impressed with the JL. I drove the JL and JK back to back and bought another JK.
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Here's a few other things they fixed in the JL, but it still didn't compel me to root for it. They redesigned the engine to have 8-speed automatic transmission. They also added a couple of vents for the hood area, which is much needed since the JK's hood was horribly containing all the heat from the engine bay, where you can also cook an egg on it after a long trip. So the extra louvers are an improvement, but not much. Finally, the other noticeable feature is the easy pull-out door handle vs the thumb depress handle(which to me is a pain in the ass). I'm still wanting to change my JK door handles regardless. I agree with you on the JT, the cab is still too small for what the vehicle was made for. For a truck, the safety tow rating is still limited to 7500 pounds, which is laughable for a truck. You would think that when a company designs and builds a "real" truck, they would find a better engine to balance towing with wheeling. Watch Tesla's cybertruck(maybe in its 2nd edition) accomplish that and blow offroad trucks out of the water.Yeah, all I can really say that's right about the JL is that they fixed the JK's face, otherwise it's still just a JK with a diesel option and lighter frame.
If the Gladiator had an extra cab longbed option I'd consider it, but as it is right now it has too much cab and not enough bed to be useful to me.
I just feel short-changed by the JL: the jump from CJ-7 to YJ was pretty dramatic, and from YJ to TJ was another massive leap, but the JL just feels more like a mid-run refresh rather than a new generation. Then again, that's basically what Toyota did with the third-gen Tundra so what do I even know?Here's a few other things they fixed in the JL, but it still didn't compel me to root for it. They redesigned the engine to have 8-speed automatic transmission. They also added a couple of vents for the hood area, which is much needed since the JK's hood was horribly containing all the heat from the engine bay, where you can also cook an egg on it after a long trip. So the extra louvers are an improvement, but not much. Finally, the other noticeable feature is the easy pull-out door handle vs the thumb depress handle(which to me is a pain in the ass). I'm still wanting to change my JK door handles regardless. I agree with you on the JT, the cab is still too small for what the vehicle was made for. For a truck, the safety tow rating is still limited to 7500 pounds, which is laughable for a truck. You would think that when a company designs and builds a "real" truck, they would find a better engine to balance towing with wheeling. Watch Tesla's cybertruck(maybe in its 2nd edition) accomplish that and blow offroad trucks out of the water.
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The gladiator was never intended to compete with a 1/2 ton truck. Just to give the wrangler more utility, I think it's really good. Screw that trial pursuit designed electric abomination. Elon was smoking way to much refer when he approved that fugly design. Look at rivian for a true electric truck solution. The cyber truck was designed by a 2 year old with a geometry set with all parts missing except for the triangle.Here's a few other things they fixed in the JL, but it still didn't compel me to root for it. They redesigned the engine to have 8-speed automatic transmission. They also added a couple of vents for the hood area, which is much needed since the JK's hood was horribly containing all the heat from the engine bay, where you can also cook an egg on it after a long trip. So the extra louvers are an improvement, but not much. Finally, the other noticeable feature is the easy pull-out door handle vs the thumb depress handle(which to me is a pain in the ass). I'm still wanting to change my JK door handles regardless. I agree with you on the JT, the cab is still too small for what the vehicle was made for. For a truck, the safety tow rating is still limited to 7500 pounds, which is laughable for a truck. You would think that when a company designs and builds a "real" truck, they would find a better engine to balance towing with wheeling. Watch Tesla's cybertruck(maybe in its 2nd edition) accomplish that and blow offroad trucks out of the water.
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The 4 door.Full size or sport model?
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Pretty sure the Gladiators tow rating is the best in class. So it was designed just fine for midsize truck duties. Teslas cybertruck is a fantasy at this point and not in production. Also if it ever comes out, it better blow all trucks out of the water for a price of $100,000+Here's a few other things they fixed in the JL, but it still didn't compel me to root for it. They redesigned the engine to have 8-speed automatic transmission. They also added a couple of vents for the hood area, which is much needed since the JK's hood was horribly containing all the heat from the engine bay, where you can also cook an egg on it after a long trip. So the extra louvers are an improvement, but not much. Finally, the other noticeable feature is the easy pull-out door handle vs the thumb depress handle(which to me is a pain in the ass). I'm still wanting to change my JK door handles regardless. I agree with you on the JT, the cab is still too small for what the vehicle was made for. For a truck, the safety tow rating is still limited to 7500 pounds, which is laughable for a truck. You would think that when a company designs and builds a "real" truck, they would find a better engine to balance towing with wheeling. Watch Tesla's cybertruck(maybe in its 2nd edition) accomplish that and blow offroad trucks out of the water.
We have 140,000 miles and counting on our versa with the cvt. Never had a single issue with that car.The CVT is such a hot garbage pizza in any application. I'm in the process of fluffing up my wife's Versa we can sell it off before the CVT grenades.
I'm really surprised by that, is there anything in particular that you do to keep t up? From what I've read the issue is that the fluid gets hot and kills the oil pump. Are you just being diligent on maintenance?We have 140,000 miles and counting on our versa with the cvt. Never had a single issue with that car.
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It blows alright.Pretty sure the Gladiators tow rating is the best in class. So it was designed just fine for midsize truck duties. Teslas cybertruck is a fantasy at this point and not in production. Also if it ever comes out, it better blow all trucks out of the water for a price of $100,000+
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Still don't trust it.Subaru makes a great CVT. About the only one.