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JimBill

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Nasty! So sorry that happened to you.

My 76 Cherokee almost caught fire once, it was resistance at the electrical joint for the high/low beam switch. Thankfully I had no carpet in it and got to it in time. Fixed it for good by going to relays and feeding headlights direct from battery, demoting the dash circuit to low amp duties. Headlights got a heck of a lot brighter too! The usual suspect for a FSJ burning down is the high amp charging circuit. It goes from the alternator to the amp gauge and then through the dash functions, and then back to the engine compartment and finally the battery. Any high resistance or short along the way (like an amp gauge shorting) and you end up with glowing hot primary circuit igniting whatever it contacts.

Another area to look is if your battery came loose. Top terminal batteries can sometimes make contact with the hood brace (especially if the posts are fender side if I recall correctly). I ended up converting to a side post battery after finding a couple arc spots on the terminal and hood brace.

I don't have many spare parts left, but do have a 2150 2BBL with altitude compensator if that is what you were running AND it got fried. Or alternately an Edelbrock Performer and Holley truck carb combo, or a Duntov Z manifold and matching Holley Carb combo- all collecting dust on the garage shelf.

Sad to see but in the end it is a blessing it happened in town. Looks like only soft parts were sacrificed.

James
 
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Nasty! So sorry that happened to you.

My 76 Cherokee almost caught fire once, it was resistance at the electrical joint for the high/low beam switch. Thankfully I had no carpet in it and got to it in time. Fixed it for good by going to relays and feeding headlights direct from battery, demoting the dash circuit to low amp duties. Headlights got a heck of a lot brighter too! The usual suspect for a FSJ burning down is the high amp charging circuit. It goes from the alternator to the amp gauge and then through the dash functions, and then back to the engine compartment and finally the battery. Any high resistance or short along the way (like an amp gauge shorting) and you end up with glowing hot primary circuit igniting whatever it contacts.

Another area to look is if your battery came loose. Top terminal batteries can sometimes make contact with the hood brace (especially if the posts are fender side if I recall correctly). I ended up converting to a side post battery after finding a couple arc spots on the terminal and hood brace.

I don't have many spare parts left, but do have a 2150 2BBL with altitude compensator if that is what you were running AND it got fried. Or alternately an Edelbrock Performer and Holley truck carb combo, or a Duntov Z manifold and matching Holley Carb combo- all collecting dust on the garage shelf.

Sad to see but in the end it is a blessing it happened in town. Looks like only soft parts were sacrificed.

James
Yup, know about the headlight and amp guage issues. They were already addressed with an amp gage bypass and headlight relay kit.

I am running the Motorcraft 4350 4bbl. I love it for offroad. Small primaries for good throttle response on the low end. Big secondaries for power on the freeway. I appreciate the offers though.

Yes, all the soft stuff is in need of replacing. Waiting on what insurance has to say at this point. Then hopefully the rebuild.

Thanks for the post! George.
 

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Forgot to post up day 3 part 1 last week. So here is part 1 and part 2 of day 3. Enjoy!

Day 3 Part 1



Day 3 Part 2

 

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HooDoos!

May 27,28
Time: 7:30am Boise, 9:00am Bliss
Meet Place: Boise, Mr Gas Travel Center 10026 S Eisenman Rd, Boise, ID 83716. Bliss, Love's Travel Center 680 US-30, Bliss, ID 83314
Destination: Bennett Mountains
Estimated Duration: 2 days
Estimated Distance: 72 miles Bliss, Id to Bliss ID
Comms Channels: GRMS=17, CB=13

Heading back to a cool camping spot with HooDoos. Before we get there though we have to drive some roads. I have 3 roads to choose from. Which road will we take? I don't know. Whichever one gets us through. I hope it is the first one since it looks to be pretty interesting. Even the second one looks pretty good. The last one could be boring, but hey it will get us to the cool camp spot.

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Starting in Bliss, Idaho we head out into the unknown and hope for a road that will get us through to our camping spot destination. Road conditions could get a bit rough in spots, but I cannot tell for sure. If road conditions get too rough, there are 2 other alternate routes to explore. Plan on a full day on the trail. It is only 38 miles to camp, but it might be a rough trip to get there. Next day will be another trail that should be straight forward as we head back into civilization.

I am going to say that good vehicle clearance will be needed for this trip. Good tires as well. I have had some experience with the roads in this area, and I can say they are pretty poor. Rough and rocky so be prepared.

This is not a guided tour and all who attend are ultimately responsible for their own safety. I am not responsible for damage, injury and or death. You partake under your own free will knowing the dangers of such activities.
 

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Bummer I'm gonna miss this one. I'm hoping I can make the lava roads trip though. I know Liana expressed interest in going on the one as well.
 
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Lava Roads (Mordor 8.0)

June 9-11, 2023
Time: 7:30am Boise, 10:30am Shoshone
Meet Place: Boise, Mr Gas Travel Center 10026 S Eisenman Rd, Boise, ID 83716. - Shoshone: Mary L Gooding Memorial Park 512 N Rail St W, Shoshone, ID 83352. Cream Can Junction route description below
Destination: South Central Idaho Desert
Estimated Duration: 3 days
Estimated Distance: 93 miles Shoshone to Camp Spot
Comms Channels: GRMS=17, CB=13

This trip (Lava Roads) was originally planned as fun way to get to the anticipated Mordor 8.0 trip this year. When reaching out with last year's Mordor trip planner to find out dates, I was informed it would be better for me to plan the Mordor trip this year. So, since I already had a plan, I just added on to the trip some more.

The first part of the trip (Lava Roads June 9) will start in Shoshone Idaho and head out north where we will find lava roads. This part of the trip would not be recommended for low clearance vehicles and non-off roadable trailers. Good tires would probably be a plus for this section as well.

After the Lava Roads we will head to Cream Can Junction for the camp out (Mordor 8.0).

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Those that can't make the Lava Roads section can meet us at Cream Can Junction. How to get there: go east of Minidoka about two miles and turn north on the Arco-Minidoka Road. About 20 miles north is Cream Can Junction. Turn west at Cream Can Junction and about 1/4-1/2 mile you should see us camped at a small hill on the south side of the road. The road to Cream Can Junction is a wide gravel road suitable for pretty much any car and trailer.

This is not a guided tour and all who attend are ultimately responsible for their own safety. I am not responsible for damage, injury and or death. You partake under your own free will knowing the dangers of such activities.
 
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Lava Roads (Mordor 8.0)

June 9-11, 2023
Time: 7:30am Boise, 10:30am Shoshone
Meet Place: Boise, Mr Gas Travel Center 10026 S Eisenman Rd, Boise, ID 83716. - Shoshone: Mary L Gooding Memorial Park 512 N Rail St W, Shoshone, ID 83352. Cream Can Junction route description below
Destination: South Central Idaho Desert
Estimated Duration: 3 days
Estimated Distance: 93 miles Shoshone to Camp Spot
Comms Channels: GRMS=17, CB=13

This trip (Lava Roads) was originally planned as fun way to get to the anticipated Mordor 8.0 trip this year. When reaching out with last year's Mordor trip planner to find out dates, I was informed it would be better for me to plan the Mordor trip this year. So, since I already had a plan, I just added on to the trip some more.

The first part of the trip (Lava Roads June 9) will start in Shoshone Idaho and head out north where we will find lava roads. This part of the trip would not be recommended for low clearance vehicles and non-off roadable trailers. Good tires would probably be a plus for this section as well.

After the Lava Roads we will head to Cream Can Junction for the camp out (Mordor 8.0).

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Those that can't make the Lava Roads section can meet us at Cream Can Junction. How to get there: go east of Minidoka about two miles and turn north on the Arco-Minidoka Road. About 20 miles north is Cream Can Junction. Turn west at Cream Can Junction and about 1/4-1/2 mile you should see us camped at a small hill on the south side of the road. The road to Cream Can Junction is a wide gravel road suitable for pretty much any car and trailer.

This is not a guided tour and all who attend are ultimately responsible for their own safety. I am not responsible for damage, injury and or death. You partake under your own free will knowing the dangers of such activities.
Planning on making this one. Debating on bringing the X or the truck.

Is this a Basecamp trip, or moving everyday?
 
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Bad day for the channel yesterday.


Not sure how the rebuild is going, we exchanged some posts on this and I didn't recall having any hard parts that could help you other than a 2150 carb, but you were running the 4 BBL. I was rummaging around recently and found I do have a 360/401 Motorcraft 4350 if you need it for parts.
 
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I managed to pick up a rebuilt one on Rock Auto. I also have the original carburetor too, so I think I am good for now. I thank you for your kind offer though.
 
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