Some noob questions for mapping and nav gurus

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Kevin108

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I'm trying to think of relevant background info to provide so it's easier for you guys to provide answers. I am a computer-literate and gadget-savvy. I consider myself an advanced DOS user (which is no longer useful, but verifies historical involvement) and I prefer rooted Android phones and tablets. I've built hundreds of systems, including my latest, which is a Hackintosh. Tech names immediately recognizable to me include Linus Torvalds, Kevin Mitnick, and Peter Sunde.

My current mapping and nav gear: a desktop computer, a 7" ASUS Android tablet, a 13.3" Chromebook, a Garmin Nuvi with updated maps and an SD card with the extras, a DeLorme inReach Explorer, an iPhone 7 running the IOS 11 beta with the Garmin Earthmate app. I also have the DeLorme Atlas for Virginia, the National Geographic Trails Illustrated maps (waterproof, tear-proof, etc.) for the area, and the Forest Service's Motor Vehicle Use Map.

My current area of interest is western VA between RT 33 and I-64. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.1681033,-79.8506683,10.17z THERE IS NO CELL COVERAGE IN MUCH OF THIS AREA which is why I'm needing to learn much of what I'm asking about here.

I recently watched @Michael 's excellent video for creating overland routes in Google Earth. I will say, it doesn't seem quite as useful when you have the impenetrable canopy coverage of a National Forest to contend with. Based on that factor, I think my trails will have to be marked from the ground via waypoints and whatnot. That's not an issue, I just haven't dialed in what the combination of hardware and software is that might be best suited for this job.

I have just begun exploring GPX files and how to use them. The first one I've spent any time with is Outbound Overland's Allegheny and Shenandoah Overland Trail. I've looked through it primarily with GPXSee but I am also running a trial version of Gaia GPS on IOS.

In the area I'm focusing on, a lot of the popular trails are already marked on Matt Alexander's Virginia Legal OHV Trails. I'm down for the offroading, of course, but that's not the primary attraction. My goal is to explore the area and find good places for overlanders to camp. That area is full of streams and rivers, so I want to highlight the sites with water, because I think those are the most useful.

Part of my problem is that I have only been an appliance-level user of these devices so far. Whatever the stock settings and features are, that's all I've made use of. Based on the hardware and software I have already, where should I start? What additions or upgrades might be of use? Is there a good way to convert the trails on Google Maps to individual GPX files that can be loaded on one of my existing devices? What other questions should I be asking at this time?
 
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Are you running an external GPS antenna like Dual or similar? This would get you through most of the "non service " areas.
Use as a stand alone item. You can even download the app to your phone.

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i use gpsvisualizer for file conversions. all online with no software to download, and it works awesome with tons of different formats. http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/
kml, gpx and more. back and forth no problem. give it a shot.
Holy. Crap. http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/draw might be the single most useful thing I've come across since I started looking into this. Thank you thank you thank you!

Are you running an external GPS antenna like Dual or similar? This would get you through most of the "non service " areas.
Use as a stand alone item. You can even download the app to your phone.
Never even heard of such a thing. I'll have to look into it. Thanks!
 
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You are opening a can of worms here.... Just kidding.

Bluetooth antennas are add on devices for your phone/tablet/ipad. There are several different makes and models. I also understand it as, these add on antennas will take priority over any gps in said phone/tablet (better or more accurate is unknown to me).

A few

http://gps.dualav.com
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/109827
https://bad-elf.com/pages/be-gps-1008-detail

I have the Garmin Glo. But keep forgetting it or the iPad. The above are antennas only. You will still need a mapping app or the like for them to be useful. I see Gaia mentioned.. Have been looking at it for a few years, but have yet to bite the bullet. That said, been messing around with the google app. for offline map cacheing of areas.

Then there are the all in one GPS devices the people use.

Another thought is the Magellan TRX7 (all-in-one). Magellan has an app for the phone/tablet, which uses the software from them (kinda neat too. Also have on my phone, but un tried). Their web based thing a ma bob is here. Trails all over the US. I think you have to have an account to give trail-updates.

http://www.trxtrailhead.com/@38.507005,-79.182758,15

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While there is some pretty cool stuff out there. It will all come down to the user on what he/she wants. I have been wanting to do the ipad thing but keep forgetting it. I think a stand alone will better suit me.

Have fun with the above info.

~Bill





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I brought my Garmin Nuvi in to update it a couple weeks before expecting to need it. It went through two stages of software and map updates, the second being much larger than the first. The second round told me about their program called Basecamp. I loaded it up, but the level of detail wasn't up to par with the variety of software I've used so far. It was even missing a whole stream from the area around where we like to camp. It's possible I could have switched it to another layer with more accuracy, but I only had a few minutes to play with it last night. Have any of you worked with it before?
 

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I'm excited. I figured out how to download the KML from Google Maps, import with GPSVis, and download to the laptop to play with later. Really looking forward to what I'll learn over the next few days!


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