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I finally see why some folks need a jacked up truck, for TP delivery service !
Overlanding with "stock" 4X4
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Purell and Charmin are BOTH upping their game...all those asses ain't gonna wipe themselves!
Just casual interest, but dont you STILL have to put that on ramps or jack up the front if you want the oil to drain out properly?":heavy mods are a handicap for poor driving."
silliest thing i've heard. seen bad and good drivers in both, stock and modified.
might as well throw this away...it doesn't matter what you drive...(long as it's stock)...
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i can't imagine a situation where being at stock height is an advantage on mountain roads, rock crawling, trails, mud, snow, water, other than driving down paved roads.
modifications allow you to traverse the bush way more smoothly. don't need excessive wheel spin in mud, a buttload of throttle to get over a log, drown your truck in a creek, or drag the entire underside of your trucks over rocks. mods make it easier on your truck, instead of having to tear it up to get over that last hill, your driving out of the bush-the last place you need a breakdown....but feel free to tear up your stock truck...just make sure to post pics...
stock is fine if that's what you like, but easier to maintain?? nahhhh, just another wives tale
to do an oil change on wifes '04 gmc requires car ramps or jacking it so i can shinny under it on my back inches from greasy cruddy parts, snaking my way around 800lbs of unneccasary crap, just to have hot oil run down my arm.
now take a look at this, changed the oil in my crew yesterday, no climbing underneath on my back, no ramps, no smashing my head or knuckles on everything, no oil running all over me. try to sit up normal under your stock truck and try this. waaaay easier, not even in the same league
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hello ease of maintenance!
no head smashing needed, no lifts needed, no sore back
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Having said that, starter replacement will be a breeze. Without any mods at all I shimmied under my '93 K1500 Blazer and reached up in order to get my started out an replaced. It was a breeze, so I can imagine how easy it would've been if I had even a mild lift. Can't say I disagree with you on ease of access.
However, the Mod cascade, as someone just termed it, can get out of control for some people's tastes.
I prefer a moderate set of mods. Shocks, springs, just to the point where I dont need to lengthen the drive shaft or drop the pitman arm or whatever.
Couple extra inches makes a big difference for must of us. Then again, I'm not rock crawling
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One of the best answers I've heard regarding vehicle modifications
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There's no right or wrong answer here. It's not about should you modify or not. The OP asked about the realities of overlanding in a stock vehicle. Everyone knows you can go more places in a heavily modified vehicle. I don't think anyone is arguing that. As far as maintenance, I'm speaking from my personal experience. Your personal experience is different than mine. Ever tried to replace a 37" tire in Central America? I've done the modified thing, but it's not my choice for overlanding. I've got a modified TJ in my garage, I'll choose my Ram over the TJ every time when it comes to overlanding. I'll choose the TJ if I'm going crawling.":heavy mods are a handicap for poor driving."
silliest thing i've heard. seen bad and good drivers in both, stock and modified.
might as well throw this away...it doesn't matter what you drive...(long as it's stock)...
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i can't imagine a situation where being at stock height is an advantage on mountain roads, rock crawling, trails, mud, snow, water, other than driving down paved roads.
modifications allow you to traverse the bush way more smoothly. don't need excessive wheel spin in mud, a buttload of throttle to get over a log, drown your truck in a creek, or drag the entire underside of your trucks over rocks. mods make it easier on your truck, instead of having to tear it up to get over that last hill, your driving out of the bush-the last place you need a breakdown....but feel free to tear up your stock truck...just make sure to post pics...
stock is fine if that's what you like, but easier to maintain?? nahhhh, just another wives tale
to do an oil change on wifes '04 gmc requires car ramps or jacking it so i can shinny under it on my back inches from greasy cruddy parts, snaking my way around 800lbs of unneccasary crap, just to have hot oil run down my arm.
now take a look at this, changed the oil in my crew yesterday, no climbing underneath on my back, no ramps, no smashing my head or knuckles on everything, no oil running all over me. try to sit up normal under your stock truck and try this. waaaay easier, not even in the same league
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hello ease of maintenance!
no head smashing needed, no lifts needed, no sore back
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I had initially planned that to be a "yo mamma" or a "that's what your wife said" joke. Wasn't sure that would pass muster. Now I know
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A JL(U)R or JTR will handle 37's just fine a long as you aren't the type to go full send on every obstacle... these axle housings are beefy and they're all 32 spline shafts. Trying to do the same on the TJ/JK D44's is just playing with fire.
IMO as far as new vehicles go (and totally not biased here), the JL and JT platforms are the ideal overlander for people who want to remain close to stock. You can go buy a Rubicon off the lot, slap some 35's on it, and go places many heavily modified rigs wouldn't dream of.
Ive done the high lifted rig on mud terrains before. I also had the strait flowmaster 40 series exhaust. Although its plenty fun in the mud, it can get pretty bad on the highway.
If you ever had to drive for 10 hours straight you will go mad by the end of the trip lol. Also your MPG will be dreadful so be prepared to stop often, the constant droning from the tires and exhaust makes it unbearable. Also, you cant really go too fast so it takes way longer to get places. And trying to roll in stealth is out of the question.
Anyhow, it has its place. Most rock crawler guys have their vehicles towed in. I guess it depends on the person in the end though. I personally couldn't do it for overlanding. But to each his own.
If you ever had to drive for 10 hours straight you will go mad by the end of the trip lol. Also your MPG will be dreadful so be prepared to stop often, the constant droning from the tires and exhaust makes it unbearable. Also, you cant really go too fast so it takes way longer to get places. And trying to roll in stealth is out of the question.
Anyhow, it has its place. Most rock crawler guys have their vehicles towed in. I guess it depends on the person in the end though. I personally couldn't do it for overlanding. But to each his own.
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This post goes to show you like most things on the internet .... have a opinion and your wrong .
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Well I’m bored and a couple delicious 100ibu 11.5% ipas in sooooo sorry not sorry ....
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Nice being able to laugh at ourselves. I love the one about the covered wagon comparison, I've said the same thing about what I have witnessed with some OB'ers LOL
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I always get a kick outta the trick rigs in town with all the beef, but clean as a whistle day in day out, over the weekend etc. Never seen em out on trails or if I get to yak at some of em, I ask where do the go or have gone..... nowhere but the blacktop.
Not saying you HAVE TO hit the dirt to overland but damn, I've spent more time in gravel, dirt and mud exploring in my stock X on HT tires and love every minute of it.
Not saying you HAVE TO hit the dirt to overland but damn, I've spent more time in gravel, dirt and mud exploring in my stock X on HT tires and love every minute of it.
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Nice X. It's kind of like my neighbor. I hear his mud terrains humming down my street but have never seen a spec of mud on it. To each his own I guess. I know he's seen my rig all dirtied up, but I usually rinse it down after I get back from a run.
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Oh my that pic looks like it ending fun!
Thanks, she is our second X now but this one is mine, standard trans an all ; ). I've got 2 more wildpeaks on order an the last 2 rims to paint up and they'll be going on shortly. Couple other odds and ends going into it but mostly maintenance to plus her up. I'm only upgrading as needed for now to take advantage of the capabilities she already offers in near stock form.
I try to keep it clean but never ends up that way haha
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Looked over your build thread and diggin it. I like the low profile of the bull bar on the F bumper too.
Is yours the OR model?
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I hear you 100% on vehicle maintenance and the like. Rotten rocker panels and wheel wells are not fun to deal with or accelerated wear to vital components. I was referring to the pavement queen/ mall crawlers where I live. A lot of them drive with an attitude like there shit don't stink or their rigs are superior because of the extensive mods done.
