NPS in Utah will start citing AWD vehicles on 4WD roads…better know difference

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then there needs to be a distinction between "4WD" and limited slip. i've had numerous "4WD" vehicles that didnt have lockers and got stuck faster than a vehicle with an AWD platform. they need "Lockers Only" trail signs...

good post, though...i would not have thought that was a thing. we hit utah a good bit and that is good to know to avoid a ticket...
 
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My Cruiser is AWD.
I think the distinction should be "High Clearance Vehicles" only.
Its entirely possible this came about with low clearance vehicles needing to be rescued.
 

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then there needs to be a distinction between "4WD" and limited slip. i've had numerous "4WD" vehicles that didnt have lockers and got stuck faster than a vehicle with an AWD platform. they need "Lockers Only" trail signs...

good post, though...i would not have thought that was a thing. we hit utah a good bit and that is good to know to avoid a ticket...
The article explicitly states “Some AWD systems have brake-based limited-slip differentials, but these are still no substitute for locking differentials in traditional 4WD systems.” I was Initially thinking that was just the position of the author. Given the very steep fines, though, that is also clearly the position of the NPS!
 

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The chances of some low IQ government bureaucrat indiscriminately applying this rule while simultaneously not understanding the difference is not less than 115%

Of all the vehicles on the road in 2024 described as "4 wheel drive" only a tiny fraction of them are actually "4 wheel drive".

More government is never, ever the answer and those who enthusiastically embrace it are among the dumbest organisms on the planet.
 

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somebody needs to remind the NPS that it doesnt matter what you drive....:grinning:
 

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somebody needs to remind the NPS that it doesnt matter what you drive....:grinning:
That's right, can we get some sort of site staff or someone to contact those people and get them plumbed up?