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Lighting up Camp

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  1. Cpol

    Cpol Rank VI

    Jackson Heights, Queens, NY, USA
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  2. AdamFineFJ

    AdamFineFJ Rank 0

    San Diego, CA, USA
    Ok, Ya'll.
    New member.
    Light obsessed since birth. Photography/Videography did not help this obsession and the G.A.S.(Gear Acquisition Syndrome) of overlanding and the constant need to test gear has led me to signing up with OB mostly so I could post on this thread... I hope you enjoy my extremely nerdy, long winded, and poorly written findings below.

    Quick disclaimer about some of the attached photos:
    The exposure for all those with text is the same to show the difference in brightness between them.
    The color temperature of the images was matched across all of them to better show the brightness and light quality without the color affecting the viewer and therefore the images are not representative of the actual color of light these devices actually produce.

    Also note that I refer to:
    Lumens as total light output of a device regardless of direction or beam pattern.
    Lux as the total brightness on a surface at a specified distance.
    and Light Pollution as a high amount of light being cast in unnecessary directions(think other campsites)

    When it comes to camp light I broke it down into a few categories to decide what I needed and when.
    • Wide Area(whole campsite) vs Local Area(single task or reaching distance area)
    • Vehicle mounted vs Portable.
    • 12v Vehicle Power, Rechargeable/Solar, disposable Battery, and Gas/Propane.

    Things that were important to me in terms of light itself:
    • Brightness.
    • Color temperature.
    • Light control to minimize Light Pollution.
    • Larger or multiple light sources for minimizing shadows.
    • Higher or multiple mounting options.

    Things I dislike.
    • Being blinded by extremely small and bright light sources.
    • SHADOWS and GLARE from those small light sources often mounted at or near eye level.
    • Spending money for name brands... really FSR/CVT/Luminoodle?
    When I first roll into camp, I need to get things out of the vehicle, off the roof rack, and generally set up camp. Cast a large area around the vehicle and at a distance to set up portable toilet/privacy tent.​
    Que the 6 Hella Valuefit 6 LED 18w flood lights on the roof rack. 2 on the rear. 2 left and right above the Front windows, and 2 45 degrees off the rear corners... The 2 rears on a single switch and the other 4 on another. Also, 10 LED rocklights under the vehicle. These vehicle mounted 12v lights require no setup or maintenance and because I am moving around the vehicle for multitasking they cast light over a large area and distance that I need without having to reposition them.
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    • I can see everything without a hitch with little shadows all around the vehicle so I can set up quickly and efficiently without struggling to see.
    • VERY useful if camping with others that do not have a built rig.. set my rig in the middle and light up the camp for multiple vehicles if we are all in agreement the light is useful and necessary.
    • Used while driving, spotting, inspecting, working on, or filming the vehicle at night.
    • Too much light for certain applications.
    • Blinding if looking directly into them by mistake. Glare with and without glasses if too close.
    • Lots of light pollution to other campsites.
    • High amp draw. 1.5 amp/light(9 amps total) and 2.25 amps for all 10 rock lights.
    • Very neutral white color temp is not very inviting for just hanging out.
    • Not dimmable.

    After camp is setup it is time for the kitchen.​
    The vehicle mounted floods go off, and if its just me camping, the rear door LE(Lighting Ever) 2835 LED strips go on. I no longer require the large area light around the vehicle and just need to cook in a small area.
    • VERY low amp draw. .8amps IIRC for my setup
    • Minimal light pollution.
    • Cool Color temp is great for tasks.
    • Brightness divided across a larger surface area nearly eliminates shadows over work area and nearly eliminates glare as compared to the same brightness value coming from a smaller singular light source. EG: lantern or flood light.
    • My absolute favorite thing is no shadows of your limbs or utensils on what you are cooking. You can see everything without shadow.
    Cons: Depending on your required brightness needs, being more than 10 feet away from the lights becomes rather dim. Color Temp is very cold which I prefer for tasks as it helps me stay awake/alert and color reproduction and contrast is great for cooking IMHO.

    For lighting the area beyond the cooking area and depending on the task I may choose one or a combination of different lights:​
    QiLi Rope Lights for Car LED
    I chose this over the Luminoodle for cost and power options. Its $20 on amazon, uses a cigarette plug and is very bright and neutral white color temp. Can be modified with magnets(home depot neodymium and 1 inch clear adhesive lined heatshrink tubing at 1 foot intervals) and loops to attach to the vehicle, Canopy, Awning, Campground Gazebo, under the vehicle as a trouble light or my favorite; hung between the roof rack and a Coleman lantern stand. I added the mentioned modifications as well as lengthened the power cord to run it over picnic tables.
    • AMAZING Area light.
    • 1.4 amp draw.
    • Great for if you have multiple people with you that need light just around camp.
    • Minimal shadows, Minimal glare.
    • Lightweight and compact.
    • Light from above is a vast improvement over a lantern at table or head height.
    • Very controlled light so minimal light pollution though extremely bright over the large are that you need it because all the LEDs face the same direction it can be aimed down or away from other campers.
    • Tethered to vehicle unless you have a portable power source such as Goal Zero Yeti or other.
    • Non-Dimmable brightness and neutral color temp may not be preferred for eating, games, reading, hanging out.

    The alternative to the above options is usually wide spread and much loved lantern such as a Coleman white gas/dual fuel or propane lantern.
    • Bright
    • reliable
    • possible multi fuel options
    • rebuildable
    • long run time compared to disposable battery/solar options
    • Dimmable.
    • Heat and cooling down time/setup time
    • Can be finicky
    • Fragile parts/ parts that routinely wear out
    • Highway robbery for fuel in remote locations if it is available at all.
    • Large and heavy.
    • VERY small light source(the mantle itself) casts lots of harsh outlined shadows.
    • High amounts of glare.
    • Lots of light pollution as the light source is always exposed from 360 degrees.
    • Minimal mounting options.
    • Dual fuel requires frequent pumping during use.
    • Propane performance is low at or below freezing temperatures.
    • Canisters.
    • And my number one annoyance which no one talks about; The GIANT shadow directly beneath the tank of the lantern while hung.
    All that said I still love my Coleman Dual Fuel Lanterns. The heat. The warm light. The Glow. The slight flicker. The hiss. The maintenance and tinkering and classic ritualistic setup. The history. The pure faded green Murica Nostalgia. They just won't be going on many trips unless I am camping with a large group away from the vehicle.

    To reduce or eliminate some of the cons of this light I went to a D-cell powered option by LuminarOutdoors at Harbor Freight..
    1250 advertised lumens and I believe it. Side by side comparison with a photographic light meter produced almost identical readings to my Coleman Dual Fuel 282 and Northstar lanterns. The major con for me personally is the color temperature is very ugly. The pro is it is extremely quick and easy to deploy and a simple foil baking pan turned reflector is great at minimizing light pollution. Sometimes I throw this on a picnic table when first arriving to set up camp to reduce the shadows coming from my rear rack lights. Or just to add to the small army of portable LED lanterns my large backpacking group deploys when we meet for a car camp trip.

    Next for lanterns is one you've all been talking about. The LUCI LIGHT!
    I went with the Luci Pro Lux with mobile charging and here is why!
    The Lux model has 2 main features I prefer over the PRO/2.0. A frosted/diffused globe and a warmer color temp.
    The "Pro" with "Mobile Charging" model just gave me the highest Lumens for those preferred features.
    I already have tons of neutral and cool temp lights. I want something warm and dim for eating/games/hanging out, and inside tent.
    And I did not want the strange crinkled light patterns from the clear globe models.. it looks like a messy spiderweb of light falls on everything vs a soft even beam with the Lux model. But that is just my opinion.
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    • Portable
    • Solar/rechargeable
    • Dimmable
    • warm color temp.
    • Pretty much zero light pollution.
    Cons: It really only casts light straight out from the LEDs.. I would say 80% of the light emitted from this thing is straight out in a rather focused soft edged round flood beam and a negligible amount of light out the sides. Great for tents or directly over a table for eating/games or a light task area. I would prefer a much brighter light for cooking. See my referenced photos about the beam/spread of this light...on a single spot of light a few feet away. I would say its brightness on that area... or its LUX. Is almost on par with a coleman lantern. Yeah. It's alllllmost THAT bright. Check out the photos for yourself!

    Another one that is a combo of the Luci Light and Luminoodle AND the QiLi LED strip is the Luci Solar String Light. I LOVE this thing. It is very dim. Basically bright enough to keep you from tripping over things. But it is an absolutely wonderful warm ambiance/mood light for under a cover/structure, inside a tent, or over a table for eating, games, etc.
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    • Warm color temp
    • Dimmable
    • Solar/Rechargable
    • Extremely portable and lightweight as the Luci Light
    • Low brightness.
    • After my camp mates have finished all tasks. the QiLi goes off and the Luci Solar String Lights go on to SET.THE.MOOD!

    Last and certainly not least is a light of my own creation in a way.​
    A simple combination of Home Depot parts to mimic the beloved glow and brightness of the Coleman lantern without any of the draw backs and a little more versatility without the cost of a GoFSR Readylight.

    The Feit Electric 60W Equivalent Warm White 3000K A19 LED 12-Volt RV/Marine Light bulb
    Installed in an HDX 8-1/2 in. 125-Watt Incandescent Aluminum Heat Clamp Light. Modified the cord by lengthening and adding a cigarette plug with 1 amp fuse. Currently either mounted to the Coleman Lantern Stand or an 8 foot extension pole off the roof rack as seen in the attached photos.
    This light was designed around the idea of an Austrailian product I desperately want to test if it is ever available in the US called the OZtrail Comet.
    A 25w LED light with a large aluminum reflector in a 4.5 meter or 13ish foot fiberglass extension pole.
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    This provides multiples of the preferred properties of light I mentioned previously.
    • Warm color temperature
    • High Output of 800 lumens( Higher LUX with the reflector on vs coleman lantern.)
    • Low Current Draw of .75amps at 12 volts.
    • Multiple mounting options.
    • No batteries, fuel, recharging, or heat.
    • Very lightweight and compact.
    • Quick and easy to use. Simple design and highly replaceable and durable parts.
    • Larger light source with reflector for softer shadows in addition to light from above for non directional shadows when working underneath.
    • No more tank shadow.
    • Directional with reflector if needed or 360 degree lantern like spread without.
    • Wide local area spread with minimal light pollution as nearby campers are shielded from the direct beam of the bulb by the aluminum reflector.
    • Useful as vehicle trouble/drop/work light
    • Extremely low cost of around 25 bucks in parts.(bulb, reflector, extra cord, 12v cig plug, butt connectors/heatshrink)

    • Probably not very waterproof - will require further modification.
    • Vehicle Tethered. Non Dimmable.
    Check out the photo of it in use and see what you think.

    If I could only have one it would be this home brew light. And I have plans to upgrade the pole to a fiberglass Heavy duty telescoping flag pole.

    Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk.

  3. Jorrie

    Jorrie Rank V

    Durbanville, South Africa
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    Thank you. Verry insightful

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