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Legal Weapons and Overlanding
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I’m looking at this Lund box for the bed (under a snug top). Has anyone tried one of these?
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I was elk hunting several years ago. Found an amazing series of drainages. Would walk one out return to my truck move on to the next. Grab a few hours sleep under the shell and repeat. Did this for a couple of weeks. When I got home I started researching a few things to make the next trip a little more comfortable. That’s when I discovered that I was basically overlanding. Now I hunt, fish and sight see the same way I did back then. Overlanding to me is a combination of everything I love to do and an opportunity to do it all at the same time. No matter where I am there’s a few things you will always find in my truck - fishing poles, firearms, tools and a spare can of Copenhagen. Firearms and hunting brought me to overlanding. They are part of my essential gear.
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Only one thing “ruins the spirit of the trip” for me. Getting eaten by a bear. 
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That just means you’ve been recycled.
I always have a gun on me and a dedicated handgun that stays in the truck that's easier to get to than the one in my waistband while driving.
Depending on where I'm going that day I also carry one of the below. The CZ Scorpion folds up nicely and makes a good backpack gun. So glad I made the move out of Cali 1.5 years ago. The hoops I had to jump through to have a carry permit and own guns was insane. Now I'm in the most gun friendly state and county in the nation.
Depending on where I'm going that day I also carry one of the below. The CZ Scorpion folds up nicely and makes a good backpack gun. So glad I made the move out of Cali 1.5 years ago. The hoops I had to jump through to have a carry permit and own guns was insane. Now I'm in the most gun friendly state and county in the nation.
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I have always felt the safest in the woods, away from people. I never felt a need for any type of weapon. Man, animal....it didn't matter.
That all changed shortly after the episode in Ely, MN known as the "Ely Six".
It was just 2-3 years after that I was on a canoe camping trip down a remote river with my wife and another couple. After a great day on the river, we pull into a very nice unreservable paddle in only site and set up. After dinner clean up, we hear the crashing of ATV's coming down a trail from quite a distance. It gets closer and pretty soon they roll up right into the paddle in only river site.
They get off and announce that they are taking the site and that we better get our shit and leave. The sun is starting to set and I tell them straight out that we are not about to travel by canoe down a class II river in the dark.
The standoff started. I settled back down on the log by my friend and very gently removed my knife without them noticing as others pulled up and they discussed what they were going to do with us. We were outnumbered.They huddled together in hushed voices giving us the stink eye every so often. I whispered to my friend that if I moved, it was time to fight with everything we had.
The standoff lasted over a half hour with me appearing calm, sitting there (it was the only way I could hide the small knife) and insisting that we were not moving and going over the rules for the use of the site and that we were in the right. I would hear nothing else.
They jumped back on their machines and said, "We'll be back!"
Now, too dark to embark safely, we fortified what we could, made spears and threw deadfall across the trail to warn us of another approach. They never came back.
Nobody slept that night.
Now....I carry every single time. And it sucks that I have to.
Do some reading on the Ely Six. Anyone would have been justified to defend themselves with lethal methods that night. And that comes from a Judge and a State Prosecutor I often hit the backcountry with either backpacking or paddling.
That all changed shortly after the episode in Ely, MN known as the "Ely Six".
It was just 2-3 years after that I was on a canoe camping trip down a remote river with my wife and another couple. After a great day on the river, we pull into a very nice unreservable paddle in only site and set up. After dinner clean up, we hear the crashing of ATV's coming down a trail from quite a distance. It gets closer and pretty soon they roll up right into the paddle in only river site.
They get off and announce that they are taking the site and that we better get our shit and leave. The sun is starting to set and I tell them straight out that we are not about to travel by canoe down a class II river in the dark.
The standoff started. I settled back down on the log by my friend and very gently removed my knife without them noticing as others pulled up and they discussed what they were going to do with us. We were outnumbered.They huddled together in hushed voices giving us the stink eye every so often. I whispered to my friend that if I moved, it was time to fight with everything we had.
The standoff lasted over a half hour with me appearing calm, sitting there (it was the only way I could hide the small knife) and insisting that we were not moving and going over the rules for the use of the site and that we were in the right. I would hear nothing else.
They jumped back on their machines and said, "We'll be back!"
Now, too dark to embark safely, we fortified what we could, made spears and threw deadfall across the trail to warn us of another approach. They never came back.
Nobody slept that night.
Now....I carry every single time. And it sucks that I have to.
Do some reading on the Ely Six. Anyone would have been justified to defend themselves with lethal methods that night. And that comes from a Judge and a State Prosecutor I often hit the backcountry with either backpacking or paddling.
Thank you for sharing that story!
Where I'm at, it's assumed that everyone is carrying. The first week I moved here I saw a mountain lion running from tree line to tree line. I have a feeling he was following me for awhile.
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Yep. You were lucky to even see him...most don't.
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Yep. That's a perfect example that drives home the point that anything can happen anywhere and at any time. It's amazing, and fortunate, that no one was injured or killed that night.
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It makes one rethink everything. I feel we were very lucky.
Outnumbered and outraged, it wasn't looking good. even typing that out, I still get goosebumps thinking about the "huddle" with them occasionally looking back over their shoulders at us, watching us and planning their options. The fact that they had to even discuss it shows that there was at least some thought of violence against us among the small group.
Had that happened today, even standing up as they rolled into camp with an open carried weapon on my hip signifying we were not an easy target would have ended it right there. My buddy also carries all the time now also.
It sucks, but society is what it is anymore. We used to laugh at the senseless violence of third world countries. We are no longer that far behind.
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the wife and i are wanting to do some dispersed camping out in new mexico
...don't have the slightest clue what kind of weapon is needed out there...
...don't have the slightest clue what kind of weapon is needed out there...
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the wife and i are wanting to do some dispersed camping out in new mexico
...don't have the slightest clue what kind of weapon is needed out there...
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I would think I’d pack whatever it takes to keep them from getting to use those rubber gloves. From what I’ve seen on tv, they have big long fingers. I don’t want get butt probed with a little tiny finger.the wife and i are wanting to do some dispersed camping out in new mexico
...don't have the slightest clue what kind of weapon is needed out there...
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