B_the_GXdude
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I thought it was beautiful that @Michael decided to address this thread at the beginning of his live broadcast yesterday.
And personally, from this point on I am ignoring anything the OP of this thread ever has to say. I have no patience for nitwits and fools, and to be honest, he is the exact kind of person I bought and built my truck to escape from. Before I ever even knew there was such a thing called "overlanding". I am a member of Overland Bound to learn about and discuss overlanding, and things related, not someones BS personal political agenda.
And personally, from this point on I am ignoring anything the OP of this thread ever has to say. I have no patience for nitwits and fools, and to be honest, he is the exact kind of person I bought and built my truck to escape from. Before I ever even knew there was such a thing called "overlanding". I am a member of Overland Bound to learn about and discuss overlanding, and things related, not someones BS personal political agenda.
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Ditto! Who gives anyone the right to define & determine what Overlanding is. His points aren't even valid.
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Advocate III
This may not be a popular viewpoint, but criticizing people's interpretation of 'overlanding' sounds a bit arrogant. It's as if you're saying, "It's not 'overlanding' unless it's how I would do it. And those people just don't qualify to be in MY category of adventurer". Let people call whatever they do whatever they want. Being offended by it is only a symptom of insecurity. If someone wants to call a road trip on pavement 'over landing', why should I care? It sounds like some people are only concerned with protecting THEIR reputation of being a TRUE overlander. I don't get that.
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It's about having your rig take you somewhere fun. It's all about the adventure. Who gives a crap what it's called? I just call it having fun. Everyone else can call it whatever the F they want. Some people get so caught up in it all...
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The Europe point of view;
Border, and less open country will make our Overlanding life more difficult.
We cant do wild camping here in the Netherlands, and in other countries of Europe it is not much better.
But!!!!!
If we explore every inch of what we have and are allowed to drive (in a respectfull way/Thread Lightly) we are Overlanders.
Because it aint the destiny what counts, its the journey.
Overlanders was and is for some people, all over the world a special class of people. They are the elite. Well let them.
Kavika1991 once said.
You are only an Overlander when you are on the trip. Not before, not after. And the trip should be self supporting in as many ways as possible.
Well, if you go on a trip of a year, with a special truck/Rig or whatever vehicle, and after that you will never go again. You are not longer an Overlander.
You were an Overlander.
But!!
To my opinion, personal and with the European mindset in mind.
As long as you are going out there, where ever you can go, and explore and enjoy the outdoor life with your vehicle. Short, long, close or far away, you are an Overlander.
You life the Overlanding life.
Because it aint given to everyone to leave all behind for a year, a month, or a lifetime.
I consider myself an Overlander. And I know that a group of Overlanders (old definition) would think different.
Why?
Because every moment I can Iam in the outdoor. Driving my car/Rig through nature where ever I can/allowed to.
Do camping, wild, semi wild or just camping.
And if someone says to me Iam not an Overlander, well, that is his/her point of view.
Michael started this Forum, this thought and it is good. Who cares what other people say, think or do.
As long as you do the right thing, traveling in a respectful way, it is fine.
And if you go out for a day, a minute, a month or whatever, it doesnt matter, it is the thought and the way of mindset that counts.
I travel in Europe. Distances in Europe are shorter as in Australia or the USA, or actually shorter to the rest of the world.
I travel to Morocco. I try to go where ever I like.
And I find happiness close to home and far away.
But most of all, I find happiness in this forum, started by Michael and Corrie. And I was and still am one of the first people to join them, and that because I found the thought of them the same as mine.
And as long as this will last, I will tell people about this great community and spread the word.
And all who cant coop with that. Well, just dont care. They do their thing, I will do mine.
Greetings from Robert
The Netherlands/ Europe.
Border, and less open country will make our Overlanding life more difficult.
We cant do wild camping here in the Netherlands, and in other countries of Europe it is not much better.
But!!!!!
If we explore every inch of what we have and are allowed to drive (in a respectfull way/Thread Lightly) we are Overlanders.
Because it aint the destiny what counts, its the journey.
Overlanders was and is for some people, all over the world a special class of people. They are the elite. Well let them.
Kavika1991 once said.
You are only an Overlander when you are on the trip. Not before, not after. And the trip should be self supporting in as many ways as possible.
Well, if you go on a trip of a year, with a special truck/Rig or whatever vehicle, and after that you will never go again. You are not longer an Overlander.
You were an Overlander.
But!!
To my opinion, personal and with the European mindset in mind.
As long as you are going out there, where ever you can go, and explore and enjoy the outdoor life with your vehicle. Short, long, close or far away, you are an Overlander.
You life the Overlanding life.
Because it aint given to everyone to leave all behind for a year, a month, or a lifetime.
I consider myself an Overlander. And I know that a group of Overlanders (old definition) would think different.
Why?
Because every moment I can Iam in the outdoor. Driving my car/Rig through nature where ever I can/allowed to.
Do camping, wild, semi wild or just camping.
And if someone says to me Iam not an Overlander, well, that is his/her point of view.
Michael started this Forum, this thought and it is good. Who cares what other people say, think or do.
As long as you do the right thing, traveling in a respectful way, it is fine.
And if you go out for a day, a minute, a month or whatever, it doesnt matter, it is the thought and the way of mindset that counts.
I travel in Europe. Distances in Europe are shorter as in Australia or the USA, or actually shorter to the rest of the world.
I travel to Morocco. I try to go where ever I like.
And I find happiness close to home and far away.
But most of all, I find happiness in this forum, started by Michael and Corrie. And I was and still am one of the first people to join them, and that because I found the thought of them the same as mine.
And as long as this will last, I will tell people about this great community and spread the word.
And all who cant coop with that. Well, just dont care. They do their thing, I will do mine.
Greetings from Robert
The Netherlands/ Europe.
Enthusiast III
Couldn't agree more. I joined for the same reasons you did and for the most part that has been my experience. I really hate it when threads like this turn people against each other. I have always found threads here to be respectful of everyone's opinions, but not in this case. We all have our own opinions so let's end this thread whether you agree or agree to disagree.
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I was going to put my 2 cents in but decided who really even cares.... just keep scrolling
What is hiking? What is camping? What difference do these details make? Go get some dirt in your tires (of any kind) and figure out if you actually care.
Im going to bag a c10 and call it an overland rig just to piss everyone off
Seriously let's close this thread. It's gotten ugly.
But an olive branch .I wager we have lots of common interests. I would say most on here (forums)respect and wish to protect the outdoors. There will always be people who don't care. And when everything is closed, they will still go out and tear things up but there will be no groups to help clean and repair trails or camps. Or come to aid in outdoor repair.
Are opinions of one another do matter. Your not digging what i do? Hit me up, let me know what your not liking. Maybe you are seeing things out of context. My idea of outdoor activity may differ from yours ,no biggie come along check it out . People acting foolish speak up. But lets not stand on the sides and shake our heads at each other, we are the only ones that end up losing. Labeling a group by what might be perceived as a wild bunch who's probably going to rut up roads will anger some. That same group may not be doing any of those things at the same time are working at preserving the land and trails . So you can see where some lashing out may stem from.
Regardless of what you call yourself we are all lumped into a group together. If you use and enjoy a vehicle for off-road or on Road travel, camping , 4wheeling you are in this group. Dirt or quad or side by side, your in here too.
The point I'm getting at is here in California and I'm sure other states, it's is a constant battle to keep trails, ohv parks or just simple dirt roads open. The people that strive day and night to keep these areas closed and want future closures do not differentiate between us. Instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be fighting with those that want to take away regardless of the size of your tires or how lightly you tread.
Honestly if we had this talk around a camp fire this would have most likely not gotten ugly and and most likely would have had a story of the areas of the beautiful scenery we have witnessed only further strengthing the importance of preserving what we have for future generations .
Sorry for kumbyyah horseshit
Seriously let's close this thread. It's gotten ugly.
But an olive branch .I wager we have lots of common interests. I would say most on here (forums)respect and wish to protect the outdoors. There will always be people who don't care. And when everything is closed, they will still go out and tear things up but there will be no groups to help clean and repair trails or camps. Or come to aid in outdoor repair.
Are opinions of one another do matter. Your not digging what i do? Hit me up, let me know what your not liking. Maybe you are seeing things out of context. My idea of outdoor activity may differ from yours ,no biggie come along check it out . People acting foolish speak up. But lets not stand on the sides and shake our heads at each other, we are the only ones that end up losing. Labeling a group by what might be perceived as a wild bunch who's probably going to rut up roads will anger some. That same group may not be doing any of those things at the same time are working at preserving the land and trails . So you can see where some lashing out may stem from.
Regardless of what you call yourself we are all lumped into a group together. If you use and enjoy a vehicle for off-road or on Road travel, camping , 4wheeling you are in this group. Dirt or quad or side by side, your in here too.
The point I'm getting at is here in California and I'm sure other states, it's is a constant battle to keep trails, ohv parks or just simple dirt roads open. The people that strive day and night to keep these areas closed and want future closures do not differentiate between us. Instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be fighting with those that want to take away regardless of the size of your tires or how lightly you tread.
Honestly if we had this talk around a camp fire this would have most likely not gotten ugly and and most likely would have had a story of the areas of the beautiful scenery we have witnessed only further strengthing the importance of preserving what we have for future generations .
Sorry for kumbyyah horseshit
B_the_GXdude
Rank VI
Off-Road Ranger III
You're ok no issues from the frontIm going to bag a c10 and call it an overland rig just to piss everyone off
Seriously let's close this thread. It's gotten ugly.
But an olive branch .I wager we have lots of common interests. I would say most on here (forums)respect and wish to protect the outdoors. There will always be people who don't care. And when everything is closed, they will still go out and tear things up but there will be no groups to help clean and repair trails or camps. Or come to aid in outdoor repair.
Are opinions of one another do matter. Your not digging what i do? Hit me up, let me know what your not liking. Maybe you are seeing things out of context. My idea of outdoor activity may differ from yours ,no biggie come along check it out . People acting foolish speak up. But lets not stand on the sides and shake our heads at each other, we are the only ones that end up losing. Labeling a group by what might be perceived as a wild bunch who's probably going to rut up roads will anger some. That same group may not be doing any of those things at the same time are working at preserving the land and trails . So you can see where some lashing out may stem from.
Regardless of what you call yourself we are all lumped into a group together. If you use and enjoy a vehicle for off-road or on Road travel, camping , 4wheeling you are in this group. Dirt or quad or side by side, your in here too.
The point I'm getting at is here in California and I'm sure other states, it's is a constant battle to keep trails, ohv parks or just simple dirt roads open. The people that strive day and night to keep these areas closed and want future closures do not differentiate between us. Instead of fighting amongst ourselves we should be fighting with those that want to take away regardless of the size of your tires or how lightly you tread.
Honestly if we had this talk around a camp fire this would have most likely not gotten ugly and and most likely would have had a story of the areas of the beautiful scenery we have witnessed only further strengthing the importance of preserving what we have for future generations .
Sorry for kumbyyah horseshit
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THIS THREAD NO LONGER REPRESENTS THE POSITIVE CONVERSATION
THAT IS THE MISSION OF OVERLAND BOUND.
IT IS LOCKED
THAT IS THE MISSION OF OVERLAND BOUND.
IT IS LOCKED
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