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I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the places we overland/offroad to, especially in regards to the people and events that came before. Everything from the geologic process to wildlife to human civilization. Here in Arizona we have a good amount of public land that seems to have all of the above in good supply.

I take the kids into the backcountry with me and I can see their curiosity and wonder in action. Rock hounding, hearing coyotes at night, finding historic markers, etc. I don’t always have the answers and if I do they’re not always that great. Often I have questions of my own too.

I thought it might be interesting to tap into the community and see what resources and practices folks have found for learning about the places we go before, during, or after our adventures.

Below are a few questions/topics to guide the discussion. I formatted it a bit like a survey but feel free to answer as you see fit. (And no judgment on any answers by the way. Not looking for Overlander/Offroader of the Year here, just interested in the knowledge sharing.)
 
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Imagine you’ve got a trip coming up. Not counting the practicalities of permits, supplies, weather, directions, etc….
  1. What might you be interested in learning about the place you’re going?
    1. nature stuff (mountains, rivers, rock/minerals, constellations, etc.)
    2. wildlife stuff (flora and fauna of the area)
    3. historical stuff (ghost towns, mining camps, battle sites, old structures, etc.)
    4. other
  2. Where might you go to research that information?
    1. Don’t really have time or interest in going out of my way to find out
    2. I just Google it
    3. I search on Youtube
    4. ask on social media / forums
    5. go to the library or buy guidebooks, history books
    6. ask a guide or someone with that expertise
    7. other
  3. Any specific websites/Youtube channels/authors you, personally, have found particularly useful? (local or specialized examples welcome too!)


At some point of your trip you come across something nature-wildlife-historical of interest…
  1. What do you typically do?
    1. Nothing, I’m in the woods. I just keep going about my business.
    2. “Huh, that’s neat. Maybe I’ll tell my wife/kids/buddy about that later.”
    3. take a picture or make a note to Google or Youtube it later
    4. add marker to maps app (Gaia, OnX, Overland Bound One, etc.)
    5. other


You’re back home, trip complete.
  1. How likely are follow-ups from the completed trip? Looking up people, places etc for next time? (Google, Youtube, forums, maps, library/books/guides)
    1. Never
    2. Sometimes
    3. Once in a while
    4. More times than not
    5. Always

Bonus Question:
  1. Any examples of trips you’ve planned where your itinerary included a specific nature/wildlife/historical thing you were already interested in? For example: a specific waterfall, gravesite, abandoned buildings, type of bird, etc.
 
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These are some great questions. We usually look for historical POI on Benchmark Atlases then do online research. Sometimes, we stumble upon an historical marker so I note it on my Benchmark Map on Avenza app then look it up when we get a signal. Usually, the marker has quite a bit of info. We research Rockhounding locations by watching You-Tube and following blogs and SM. Ditto, ghost towns. For flora and fauna, if we can we take photos and try Google Image Search or use several bird ID apps like Merlin or Peterson’s,
 
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I might have some nature guide books with me and I'll see if I can find out about what I'm looking at while I'm looking at it.
When I plan a route, if something shows on a map, I might look it up through google.
If I find something interesting out in the wilds, I'll drop a pin on Gaia with a note and maybe take a photo and look it up when I get home.
 
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1. All of the above, I’m exploring to experience nature and history. Some ideas come from reading about a place, others from speaking with people. A chance conversation lit the spark for a two week trip to Peru, including the Inca Trail trek. Did you know that there’s a Rambo First Blood Festival each fall in Hope, British Columbia? I learned that last year while chatting with some other travelers outside a campground restroom.
2&3. The internet, specifically websites, YouTube, and “official” websites. I love physical maps - all of the possibilities laid out before me in their topographical glory.
4. If I come across something interesting? I observe, photograph, maybe make notes or record the location coordinates. I’m easily distracted by animals, insects, plants and have scrambled up snow covered ridges simply to see what’s on the other side.
5. As I travel, I keep a daily journal of what I did/saw, who I met, and personal observations. It’s fun to read them a few years later. It’s amazing how much you can forget, particularly after your 30th or so trip…
6. Follow up? You betcha! I’m usually mulling over ideas for the next trip on the drive home.
Bonus Question: Um, that’s every trip?
Here’s a good example of the birth of a trip idea that happened just this afternoon: I was lazily scrolling a thread on Reddit and learned that the tall ship Bark EUROPA offers a 52-day sailing expedition from Ushuaia on the southern tip of South America to Cape Town, South Africa. In reading their website, I discovered that this isn’t a modern, comfy cruise ship, but a 100 year old sailing vessel. Wow, what a cool adventure!
 
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GhostCat said:
Imagine you’ve got a trip coming up. Not counting the practicalities of permits, supplies, weather, directions, etc….
  1. What might you be interested in learning about the place you’re going?
    1. nature stuff (mountains, rivers, rock/minerals, constellations, etc.)
    2. wildlife stuff (flora and fauna of the area)
    3. historical stuff (ghost towns, mining camps, battle sites, old structures, etc.)
    4. other
  2. Where might you go to research that information?
    1. Don’t really have time or interest in going out of my way to find out
    2. I just Google it
    3. I search on Youtube
    4. ask on social media / forums
    5. go to the library or buy guidebooks, history books
    6. ask a guide or someone with that expertise
    7. other
  3. Any specific websites/Youtube channels/authors you, personally, have found particularly useful? (local or specialized examples welcome too!)


At some point of your trip you come across something nature-wildlife-historical of interest…
  1. What do you typically do?
    1. Nothing, I’m in the woods. I just keep going about my business.
    2. “Huh, that’s neat. Maybe I’ll tell my wife/kids/buddy about that later.”
    3. take a picture or make a note to Google or Youtube it later
    4. add marker to maps app (Gaia, OnX, Overland Bound One, etc.)
    5. other


You’re back home, trip complete.
  1. How likely are follow-ups from the completed trip? Looking up people, places etc for next time? (Google, Youtube, forums, maps, library/books/guides)
    1. Never
    2. Sometimes
    3. Once in a while
    4. More times than not
    5. Always

Bonus Question:
  1. Any examples of trips you’ve planned where your itinerary included a specific nature/wildlife/historical thing you were already interested in? For example: a specific waterfall, gravesite, abandoned buildings, type of bird, etc.
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These are great questions.. in addition Another great resource for exploring public lands is the Bureau of Land Management website: Home | Bureau of Land Management. It provides information on BLM lands across the US, including recreation opportunities, maps, environmental education and ways to volunteer to help maintain trails and natural areas. Someone interested in learning more about the history and environment of the areas they explore offroad with their kids would find useful information here and for Itinerary I usually look for articles that they can suggest for example when I visit Egypt Egypt Tourism Statistics 2023: All You Need To Know I used this to creat Itinerary.
 
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GhostCat said:
I’ve been giving a lot of thought to the places we overland/offroad to, especially in regards to the people and events that came before. Everything from the geologic process to wildlife to human civilization. Here in Arizona we have a good amount of public land that seems to have all of the above in good supply.

I take the kids into the backcountry with me and I can see their curiosity and wonder in action. Rock hounding, hearing coyotes at night, finding historic markers, etc. I don’t always have the answers and if I do they’re not always that great. Often I have questions of my own too.

I thought it might be interesting to tap into the community and see what resources and practices folks have found for learning about the places we go before, during, or after our adventures.

Below are a few questions/topics to guide the discussion. I formatted it a bit like a survey but feel free to answer as you see fit. (And no judgment on any answers by the way. Not looking for Overlander/Offroader of the Year here, just interested in the knowledge sharing.)
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Excellent topic. Up until recently, I used several sources such as simple google searches, special Apps, and reading books when available. Nowadays I do the same with the only differences having my search enhanced by AI, including ChatGPT and Gemini. I understand the community is not fully ready yet (see thread: Use of AI in Overlanding Use of AI in Overlanding) however I still find this additional information very useful and reliable.

Use of AI in Overlanding Use of AI in Overlanding
 
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For me, a wide variety of sources - books, Google Earth, maps, word of mouth from people I trust, etc. and just plain find a area and explore — has worked well for the past 40ish years of getting out there. It’s work to find great places that haven’t been overrun, but it’s worth it. Or you can just go with the crowd . . . .

The problem to me with AI, YouTube, Instagram, camping apps, even forums like this one, is they really tend to concentrate people, and in some cases like Instagram and YouTube yahoos who don’t know how to act or preserve the land and the experience. The outdoor world is increasingly being ruined by the overlanding industry that has sprung up in the last X years IMO. I’m probably in the minority on this, but . . .
 
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