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I use to carry my iPhone in my right back pocket of my pants screen facing my glute and over the course of 2 years I had a golf ball size growth develop in my glute exactly where my screen would sit everyday.
damn...smartphones really are a pain in the ass...:neutral:
I see what you did there....
 
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IIRC, the batteries replacement cost for that thing will be starting around $15K. A friend has a KIA hybrid; the replacement cost for the big battery is more than the car's resale price.
Like anything, as soon as the demand goes up, someone makes them cheaper. Prius replacement batteries are under 2k. My buddies shop has replaced a few.

Haven't they been having blackouts there for decades?
Yea. Once it gets hot, the grid cant handle the air-conditioning.

I did some calculations about electric vehicles then rounded down. If 50% of the population here had electric vehicles, the rolling blackouts could happen in the spring/fall also. Summer....you better have your own power source.

Our politicians are screaming for less dependency on gas vehicles due to pollution. No one will move forward on the power grid issue. The people here are happy not knowing the details and trust the government to keep them safe. The major power companies in this side of the states are trying to get fines implemented for people who have there own solar (they call it a tax). Their fighting any real improvements. One side is calling for electric vehicles and the other is calling for no modifications on the power grid. Gotta love it.

To top it all off, the data they show you about vehicle emissions is based on data from the 70's. Modern cars here produce almost no pollution. Anyone who lived here from the 60's can tell you about the air quality from then till now. Don't get me started on the whole "alcohol in the fuel" thing....Gawd.

I would think I would be use to the diffrent political agendas by now.
 
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IIRC, the batteries replacement cost for that thing will be starting around $15K. A friend has a KIA hybrid; the replacement cost for the big battery is more than the car's resale price.
Like anything, as soon as the demand goes up, someone makes them cheaper. Prius replacement batteries are under 2k. My buddies shop has replaced a few.

Haven't they been having blackouts there for decades?
Yea. Once it gets hot, the grid cant handle the air-conditioning.

I did some calculations about electric vehicles then rounded down. If 50% of the population here had electric vehicles, the rolling blackouts could happen in the spring/fall also. Summer....you better have your own power source.

Our politicians are screaming for less dependency on gas vehicles due to pollution. No one will move forward on the power grid issue. The people here are happy not knowing the details and trust the government to keep them safe. The major power companies in this side of the states are trying to get fines implemented for people who have there own solar (they call it a tax). Their fighting any real improvements. One side is calling for electric vehicles and the other is calling for no modifications on the power grid. Gotta love it.

To top it all off, the data they show you about vehicle emissions is based on data from the 70's. Modern cars here produce almost no pollution. Anyone who lived here from the 60's can tell you about the air quality from then till now. Don't get me started on the wihole "alcohol in the fuel" thing....Gawd.

I would think I would be use to the diffrent political agendas by now.
Electricity is getting expensive as well. Mine went up almost 10% per KwH in the last year just cause it could. For electric you may not pay at the pump buy the "fuel" for that is going up as well. Doesnt matter what you drive or use, the corporations and government will make sure they get the most money out of you they can.
 

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If I remember correctly Boeing had a lot of issues getting the 777 Dreamliner certified due to those pesky batteries. Imagine slamming the much larger battery onto a sharp rock (instead of a thumbtack)! Instead of losing all of your oil you could burn down a forest.
 

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I have been in the electrical field for 22 years. Seen a lot. The USA power grid is not currently up to the task. The more demand EV puts on the system the more issues there will be. The technology is young and you can’t rush it. The batteries are made of lithium and it burns nice ( fire burn) also. Please don’t look at the lithium mines. Might make a nice camp spot. Certain governments want to push green energy. It don’t exist. It’s a fairy tale. With The electrical demand for a typical American home you wouldn’t power you hair drier with a roof and lawn PV (solar panels) system. That would cost you a nice 50-100k. Not installed. Just equipment. maybe the gov will be nice and give you a tax credit. Not that much. In my view EV will never have the capability of doing over landing. Unless you want to stay with in 100 miles of your home base. It would take to long to recharge. Could not carry enough PV panels or you have to take fuel for a generator. And run it for 10-16 hours. The fast chargers full batteries in 4-6 hours pull about 60 amps. You can’t provide that type of power in the woods camping. Just my two cents.
 

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If I remember correctly Boeing had a lot of issues getting the 777 Dreamliner certified due to those pesky batteries. Imagine slamming the much larger battery onto a sharp rock (instead of a thumbtack)! Instead of losing all of your oil you could burn down a forest.
Father-n-law was on one of engineering crews that evaluated those batteries. He just shakes his head when hears people pushing that EV are the way to go right now.
 
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If we really want to be green, bring out the horse and buggy again. Just make sure there is a compost bin on the buggy so you can fertilize some plants with the horse poop. Would be able to get to all the trails to... No limits.
 

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Per this article: Will Batteries Ever Match Gasoline’s Energy Density? | Menlo Energy Economics


”A subcompact car with a 10-gallon gas tank can store the energy equivalent of 7 Teslas, 15 Nissan Leafs or 23 Chevy Volts, according to industry sources.”
It does need to be on par. about 35 % of what you burn is actually moving the car with a petrol engine. If they reach this ratio, they will be already be on par as size and weight of the battery need it.
Still a long way though