BFG A/T K02 or TOYO OPEN COUNTRY A/T II?

[boss324]

For what it's worth, I just came back from a trip about 20 miles into the Eastern Sierras. That's some Rough, rocky terrain back there. Some of those rocks were sharp! KO2's were awesome in every way. No gouges, chunks missing, or any signs of wear. They handled like a champ. And the Eastern Sierra mountains are pretty rugged.


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It's a very tough tire I ran Leviathon mines road in the Eastern seirras in my 2500 burb at 30psi and boy it did a number on my tires I don't know if it was the wieght of my rig or PSI I was running but I do see some noticable marks from the rock garden I went through. The side walls held up it was really rough terrain. Tire did great but 16 miles of rough terrain the tire did show it. Now interestingly the other Z71 burbs tires showed now wear?

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[000]

Definitely depends on what you are doing with them, but I am a bfg guy. The sidewall durability is legendary they take serious abuse and have never failed me or my friends that all run them. They seem to be a consistently great all around tire. I was torn between the all terrains or the muds but ended up with the all terrains since my rig is also my daily driver and 90% of the terrain I am on suits the all terrains.


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[Masheen365]

I'd like to think the mark of a quality product isn't the warranty but the fact that you never have to worry about using a warranty.

I'm running the Toyo's now and like them. A 35x12.5 AT is better than a 275 Pirelli Scorpian... whatever. My Toyos are worn and slip fairly bad in wet roads (unloaded F150). Not very confidence inspiring. When these get worn just a bit more and the wife and I can swing a tire purchase, I'm getting some KO2s. I've run the KOs on an omder F150 and loved them.

An honorable mention for the Cooper AT3 that I hear little about on these pages.

 

[theMightyGoose]

It's a very tough tire I ran Leviathon mines road in the Eastern seirras in my 2500 burb at 30psi and boy it did a number on my tires I don't know if it was the wieght of my rig or PSI I was running but I do see some noticable marks from the rock garden I went through. The side walls held up it was really rough terrain. Tire did great but 16 miles of rough terrain the tire did show it. Now interestingly the other Z71 burbs tires showed now wear?

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I was running 20 PSI and went pretty slow. My speed probably helped.


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[theMightyGoose]

I'd like to think the mark of a quality product isn't the warranty but the fact that you never have to worry about using a warranty.

I'm running the Toyo's now and like them. A 35x12.5 AT is better than a 275 Pirelli Scorpian... whatever. My Toyos are worn and slip fairly bad in wet roads (unloaded F150). Not very confidence inspiring. When these get worn just a bit more and the wife and I can swing a tire purchase, I'm getting some KO2s. I've run the KOs and loved them.

An honorable mention for the Cooper AT3 that I hear little about on these pages.

Those Cooper AT3's receive a lot of praise from those who use them


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[boss324]

I was running 20 PSI and went pretty slow. My speed probably helped.


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Yeah part of the trail in was trying to keep pace with my buddies FJ not a good idea;)

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[theMightyGoose]

Definitely depends on what you are doing with them, but I am a bfg guy. The sidewall durability is legendary they take serious abuse and have never failed me or my friends that all run them. They seem to be a consistently great all around tire. I was torn between the all terrains or the muds but ended up with the all terrains since my rig is also my daily driver and 90% of the terrain I am on suits the all terrains.


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I'm amazed at how quiet my KO2s are on the highway. And because I went with 255s, I've seen no hit to the mpg. And they were champs on the rugged trail I just completed.

 

[theMightyGoose]

It's a very tough tire I ran Leviathon mines road in the Eastern seirras in my 2500 burb at 30psi and boy it did a number on my tires I don't know if it was the wieght of my rig or PSI I was running but I do see some noticable marks from the rock garden I went through. The side walls held up it was really rough terrain. Tire did great but 16 miles of rough terrain the tire did show it. Now interestingly the other Z71 burbs tires showed now wear?

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I had a full load. But I went slow. I think that makes a difference.

 

[Red Beard]

We have tested both here at work on a fleet of 100+ trucks that spend 95% of the time off road.
We did two 24 truck groups 12 with MT and 12 AT of each brand. So it was a pretty fair test.

The BFG KO2 tires just flat out take a beating and keep on eating. They out performed the KM every where but deep mud. They hold up for about 25-30k miles of mixed mud, sand and rocks. They are the best tire we have found for the abuse we put them through in a mining environment. I run them on all of my personal vehicles as well and am seeing 60-70k miles out of E rated KO2s.

The Toyo tires had little to no traction in mud and loose rock. After about 10k miles the tread would delaminate from the casing of the tire and then blow out. We tried both the AT and MT the results were the same out of both.

 

[000]

I'm amazed at how quiet my KO2s are on the highway. And because I went with 255s, I've seen no hit to the mpg. And they were champs on the rugged trail I just completed.

I was seriously thinking of trying the 255s but didn't know if it would affect the gearing too much for me and didn't want to go down that road yet... I went with the 265-75 16s and like them but am still thinking about the 255s. The k02s are definitely quiet, especially when you find the psi sweet spot for the load.


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[theMightyGoose]

I have 255

I was seriously thinking of trying the 255s but didn't know if it would affect the gearing too much for me and didn't want to go down that road yet... I went with the 265-75 16s and like them but am still thinking about the 255s. The k02s are definitely quiet, especially when you find the psi sweet spot for the load.


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I have 255/75/17, which are basically skinny 32's. one of the things that sealed it is the weight. They are only about 4lbs over stock. I'm really trying to keep the changes and modifications to my rig at a minimum.

 

[boss324]

We have tested both here at work on a fleet of 100+ trucks that spend 95% of the time off road.
We did two 24 truck groups 12 with MT and 12 AT of each brand. So it was a pretty fair test.

The BFG KO2 tires just flat out take a beating and keep on eating. They out performed the KM every where but deep mud. They hold up for about 25-30k miles of mixed mud, sand and rocks. They are the best tire we have found for the abuse we put them through in a mining environment. I run them on all of my personal vehicles as well and am seeing 60-70k miles out of E rated KO2s.

The Toyo tires had little to no traction in mud and loose rock. After about 10k miles the tread would delaminate from the casing of the tire and then blow out. We tried both the AT and MT the results were the same out of both.

Nice feedback on the differences of the K02S vs KM2. I know the KM3 are going to be coming out soon so will be looking out for those on my next set.

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[theMightyGoose]

I'd like to think the mark of a quality product isn't the warranty but the fact that you never have to worry about using a warranty.

I'm running the Toyo's now and like them. A 35x12.5 AT is better than a 275 Pirelli Scorpian... whatever. My Toyos are worn and slip fairly bad in wet roads (unloaded F150). Not very confidence inspiring. When these get worn just a bit more and the wife and I can swing a tire purchase, I'm getting some KO2s. I've run the KOs on an omder F150 and loved them.

An honorable mention for the Cooper AT3 that I hear little about on these pages.

Tommy Boy said it best, "You can put a guarantee on a piece of turd, and all you'll end up with is a guaranteed piece of turd"...(censored. Because people on this forum are a class act and deserve it)

 

[000]

I have 255

I have 255/75/17, which are basically skinny 32's. one of the things that sealed it is the weight. They are only about 4lbs over stock. I'm really trying to keep the changes and modifications to my rig at a minimum.

I thought you were talking about 255/75 16s which are a skinny 34" tire. This is where my gearing concerns where... makes sense with what you are doing with your truck. My truck modifications been sliding the other direction but can't justify the funds for gearing yet or the front arb locker that would probably happen if if I took that jump.


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[theMightyGoose]

I thought you were talking about 255/75 16s which are a skinny 34" tire. This is where my gearing concerns where... makes sense with what you are doing with your truck. My truck modifications been sliding the other direction but can't justify the funds for gearing yet or the front arb locker that would probably happen if if I took that jump.


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I definitely didn't need to regear with skinny 32's

 

[theMightyGoose]

I thought you were talking about 255/75 16s which are a skinny 34" tire. This is where my gearing concerns where... makes sense with what you are doing with your truck. My truck modifications been sliding the other direction but can't justify the funds for gearing yet or the front arb locker that would probably happen if if I took that jump.


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255/75r16 is a skinny 31"

 

[theMightyGoose]

This helped me when I was deciding

https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=245-75r16-255-75r16

 

[000]

255/75r16 is a skinny 31"

Sorry, I meant 255/85 16. 33-34" depending on mfg


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[theMightyGoose]

Sorry, I meant 255/85 16. 33-34" depending on mfg


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The need to re-gear with skinny tires is a bit lessened though because you'll have a lot less unsprung weight to overcome. Just something to think about. You probably wouldn't need to regear with skinny 33". Maybe with 34".


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[LuxuryOverland]

My think with skinny vs wide tires is simple; view Camel Trophy. What do you see. Skinny tires!!! Wide is AWESOME, in fact REQUIRED (in my opinion) for tons of sand travel. more ground covered, and, like a snow shoe, more traction/footprint to gain traction. With everything else besides tons and tons of sand, skinny is a friend!! I guess, though, that would depend on the rig? Seeing a giant full size with some nice skinny 265's or 255's would be cute...LOL! BUT I think its doable!