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A buddy I studied with had a Patriot and it was a pretty decent little car. Room enough for five students and their gear, good ground clearance and decent road manners. I'd take one over a CR-V or Murano any day of the week.

Hell all, I'm Sam, I typically go by Samwise - it's a trail name that carried over from my time in Scouting. New to the forum, but I've been following the OB channel for some time. I work in the automotive field, but my background is in natural science and history. I'm a backpacker and a Toyota...

I see that you're in Ca, are you anywhere near Sonoma County? My Dad is part of the Sonoma County Radio Amateurs club and helps teach licensing classes, they typically have a class every few months, it's one long weekend.

I'm hopeful that the new Bronco will kick-start a new round of cool heritage-inspired 4x4s and break us out of this jellybean-car crossover rut. The fact that it can come with three pedals and a proper gearbox is also really encouraging, too. The slushbox is the absolute worst thing about my...