What huachuca said. Currently, the T4 and T4 overland edition are expected some time between "now and October" according to their sales people. I got the email notification about the T4 plus yesterday morning and snagged one (really want the T4, but worst case I'll have both). They were sold out about 3 hours later. I actually set an alert on my phone to let me know if I get an email from Gazelle. :)