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I thought it looked familiar! Was a great spotA bit off topic but I have to ask.. is this campsite in Death Valley?
Yes it is.
Pathfinder III
I thought it looked familiar! Was a great spotA bit off topic but I have to ask.. is this campsite in Death Valley?
Yes it is.
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I can't compare them side by side, but when not in an enclosed space, the physical foot print has to effect the amount of heat radiated outward. Since heat rises, only so much of the air around the device is going to heat up. If the fire covers a larger horizontal area, it stands to reason that the warmth will be spread out more. Pure BTUs will overcome some of that, but again, most of the heat is going to be going straight up. To properly heat an area, you need something to soak up the heat and retain it over time. Neither of of these really offer this.Has anyone had an opportunity to compare the likes of a Lavabox to either the Camp Chef or Outland rings head to head? I have to admit that I'm attracted to the very compact nature of the Lavabox, but I'm curious how well it radiates any warmth compared to a traditional bowl style. Especially since the Camp Chef can be had at nearly half the price.
Agreed that neither truly offer it, but I've had a good propane fire ring with rocks that provided a good bit of warmth on the patio. What I can't really determine is at what size that becomes diminishing returns. Both the Lavabox and the likes of the Camp Chef/Outland put out about the same amount of BTU, and both use some manner of rock to help radiate some heat. So the trick becomes how much horizontal space of said rocks is needed to effectively radiate some heat. No, they'll never compare to a full roaring campfire, which is going to put out a lot more BTUs because it's larger, and likely has a larger ring of rocks (though I've had beach fires with no rings that still had me toasty), but in places where that campfire is impossible, they have their purpose.I can't compare them side by side, but when not in an enclosed space, the physical foot print has to effect the amount of heat radiated outward. Since heat rises, only so much of the air around the device is going to heat up. If the fire covers a larger horizontal area, it stands to reason that the warmth will be spread out more. Pure BTUs will overcome some of that, but again, most of the heat is going to be going straight up. To properly heat an area, you need something to soak up the heat and retain it over time. Neither of of these really offer this.
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After my first trip with the Camp Chef, I stopped carrying the rocks for it. They were too much of a pain to deal with. I don't think the heat footprint is going to be vastly different between the two types, so I would just go with the one you like the most. One of the things that I like about the Camp Chef is that I can also cook on it pretty easy.Agreed that neither truly offer it, but I've had a good propane fire ring with rocks that provided a good bit of warmth on the patio. What I can't really determine is at what size that becomes diminishing returns. Both the Lavabox and the likes of the Camp Chef/Outland put out about the same amount of BTU, and both use some manner of rock to help radiate some heat. So the trick becomes how much horizontal space of said rocks is needed to effectively radiate some heat. No, they'll never compare to a full roaring campfire, which is going to put out a lot more BTUs because it's larger, and likely has a larger ring of rocks (though I've had beach fires with no rings that still had me toasty), but in places where that campfire is impossible, they have their purpose.
That's why I'm curious about the size to radiated heat capability between the bowl style and the ammo box. Much smaller footprint on the latter, but if the amount of radiated heat was reasonably close, I'd be inclined to spend the extra $$$ for the space savings.
Could you post some pictures of the inside of the lava box and the burner they sell? I am going to make my own and would like to see what they have going on. I looked on their web site and did some searches but could not find any pictures of their burners and the insides of the unit. ThanksWe got a Lavabox - small, high output. Just not a traditional footprint. Shop Propane Fit Pits — LavaBox
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Got any pictures? Does he have a website?Personally I like @MrWilsonWJ fire pits… one of these days I’m going to have to commission Dustin to build me one.
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Thanks again for the recommendation. I’ll insert my thoughts here when mine shows up. I hope it’s worth the wait.We got a Lavabox - small, high output. Just not a traditional footprint. Shop Propane Fit Pits — LavaBox
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there are alot of option in the Propane Fire Pit Table. What ones are you using and does it have a good travel case or Abel to put in the Front Runner ammo box for storage so it doesn't not get damaged.I had bought a generic/off-brand version of the Outland Firebowl at Costco a few months back that had sat boxed in my garage. Went to unpack and test it last night since we were going to use it on a quick trip tomorrow only to find there's something wrong with the regulator, so it will only light for a second. Now that I'm going to have to look again, gotta admit I like the compact-ness of the Lava Box.
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I never ended up replacing it. I'm back on the lookout, possibly for one of the ammo box size ones as it's usually just going to be the wife and me, and space is a premium.there are alot of option in the Propane Fire Pit Table. What ones are you using and does it have a good travel case or Abel to put in the Front Runner ammo box for storage so it doesn't not get damaged.
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It's cool, but little on the big side.This is the one im looking into Fire Pit