Toyota Tacoma's

[TreXTerra]

Honestly, I'm not sure. All I know is that she was adamant as hell about recalls.

Her father used to drive a 94' 4-Runner that he rolled three or four times. The thing was invincible. Ever since owning that, he's had nothing but issues with Toyota, and since went to Subaru. She's basing her issues with the maker and model off of letters her father apparently gets all the time, for models he doesn't even own, nor has she had experience with!

I've helped tear down a Taco before, and a 4-Runner. Easy maintenance and easy to keep alive.

Nothing against my wife at all, I appreciate her concerns, but like @stoney126 has mentioned in a lower post, the RAM's are high on the list for problems !





I wouldn't mind the standard 5' bed.

That's a nice list of accolades, thank you for sharing!

Some of those items would have been absolutely disastrous in others makes!

Owning a vehicle as resilient and maintainable s that would lessen the stress of my owning the DII. Though, I do love my Discovery.





You're quite right about that.

I don't see myself ever needing a full size truck, and not being limited on where I can go with it, isn't appealing.





Wow, that first part sounds pretty extreme. I mean, fingers crossed that the odds of that happening are low, but still...

I have been looking at the Frontiers, and I do like the pricing I am seeing, and the capability (and there are diesel variants!)

The thing for me with buying a brand new vehicle, is that it would take forever to pay off, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to it for a long ass time, wouldn't I?





This. Exactly what I told my wife.

I work with several Marines who are certified technicians with Diesels and such through Ford and Dodge, and they all have RAM's from 08 and up.

I've watched them time and time again have to do heavy duty maintenance on their rigs due to factory issues, and drive train problems. Especially transmission issues.

There also is the fact that they need 7 gallons of oil for their engines.... if we're talking about saving money, that's not going to cut it.

With the suggestions on top, I'm not sure I want to invest into a brand new rig. I rather like buying used and building up/working on them.




I've heard about this before, and it sounds pretty awesome.

I've driven in a few Titan's before, and they're pretty stout. Do you recall how difficult it was for them to do this? Cost? And what year Frontier were they using?

You don't have to wait to pay off a rig before modding it, already in the US the burden is on the dealer and manufacturer to prove your mods directly caused the failure if they don't want to pay for a warranty repair. Many dealers will do lifts, rims, tires, even armor on a brand new truck to jack up the price.

You have to use a 2005+ Frontier or XTerra to do a Titan swap. The cost really depends of if you source new or used Titan parts and what shocks you put on. Some guys are using struts off a Tundra for a budget swap, but you can also drop big money on reserve reservoir Fox racing shocks. How deep down the rabbit hole you go is up to you.

 

[TreXTerra]

Actually, I don't know about the Ram issues....

I have been lurking at Tacoma World for a WHILE deciding on MY next truck. The 3rd Generation Tacoma's have literally MOUNTAINS of issues and, since I drive an '05 Ram, started lurking at the Ram Forums as well. I'm seeing far LESS issues with the Rams.

I'm used to my large truck, but like the idea of putting a topper on a Tacoma for an inexpensive (fuel wise) truck to show my wife some parts of the Country I got to see as a kid, and I like the size for getting around my hunting land.

But the full size is handy from time to time I must say, and the ride is awesome.

Good luck on your decision, I'm in the same boat !

What issues are they seeing with the Gen3 Tacos?

 

[Murphy Slaw]

What issues are they seeing with the Gen3 Tacos?

Oh my God ! Mountains...

Go to Tacoma World and read the Gen. 3 General discussions. Brake failures, transmissions without fluid, rear diff., body mounts, hoods rattling, poor gas mileage, lemon laws, buy-backs.

I've pretty much written them off in the last few days.

 

[theick]

I think the Tacoma is overall one of the best vehicles for off road, on road and overland. There may be other vehicles out there better at 1 thing or another but nothing else is as well rounded a performer. You get good onroad manners, very good off road abilities, a truck bed, proven reliability, huge online support network and a ridiculous amount of aftermarket resources.

They of course have their own problems as well but they are well known and the 2nd gens are mostly dealt with.

The 3rd gens are a totally new design. Unfortunately most manufactures use the buying public to work out the bugs. The 2017's fix a lot of the problems the 2016's but I would wait until the 2018's come out.

 

[TreXTerra]

I thought the Gen3 used the same chassis as the Gen2, the Gen2 lift kits bolt right up to the 2016+. I consider it more of a heavy refresh with the new engine than a whole new truck.

 

[Murphy Slaw]

The 3rd gens are a totally new design. Unfortunately most manufactures use the buying public to work out the bugs. The 2017's fix a lot of the problems the 2016's but I would wait until the 2018's come out.

I've kind of kept that in the back of my mind as well.

Didn't want to come off TOO hard on the Gen3, but spending a little time in those forums will surely open your eyes and make you dig a little deeper. I realize people who actually HAVE problems with a rig are the ones searching for answers, but those numbers ran me off for the time being.

And I owned a 94 SR5 for 13 years....

 

[ColoradoPacific]

I would wait until the 2018's come out.

That's the first thing my dad ever taught me about buying cars. NEVER buy the first 2 years of a new model haha!