Running trails with a vehicle vs. hiking them

[CR-Venturer]

That's a rather blanket generalization. A lot of the remote places that overlanders go, there is nobody else for hundreds of miles around whose "peace and quiet" would be disturbed.

I'm as much about protecting sensitive areas as anyone else. I would never camp on Cheam's alpine meadows, for example, because the flora there is truly very sensitive and takes a very long time to replenish when impacted. Having said that, there are also lot of people who like to grossly exaggerate the sensitivity of the environment, freaking out about people camping on barren, lifeless sand or rock, or in lush coastal rainforest - you couldn't stop the veg from growing there if you tried it grows so fast.

Can it be overdone? Sure, it can, I acknowledge that. Is that the norm? Absolutely not.

Unfortunately there are some people who characterize three jeeps in a remote campsite as if they were hosting Burning Man in a suburban neighborhood.

 

[CSG]

Exaggerate much? That's mis-characterizing my comments.

 

[MOAK]

Nor we. My wife and I have been going at it alone now for over 20 years, ( or since we have had the expendable income to do this thing ). Two years ago we went out with our daughter's 4 person family and a few years before that with my son. Two vehicles, and that was the only two times we were not alone. Playing man made recorded music in the back country? Anyone doing that just doesn't "get it". We do this thing called overlanding/rustic camping/ roughing it/ ( whatever definition one wants to use) to get out and away from the rat race and hopefully find a way to self discovery, or at the very least, begin to learn how to live a self examined life. As George Carlin once said, the world is so screwed up cause everybody lets all their stuff get in the way.

 

[MOAK]

Unfortunately there are some people who characterize three jeeps in a remote campsite as if they were hosting Burning Man in a suburban neighborhood.

I made my point extraordinarily clear. Why your statement? If me and a couple of other folks were indeed out in a very remote campsite whether a vehicle campsite or a back packing site, or on a trail, I would find it, without any exaggeration or false characterization, very disturbing if a large convoy just happened to be passing by. I certainly am not familiar at all with "some people" that you make reference to. The entire point of back country camping is to leave the BS behind, back in the proverbial suburbs where it unfortunately belongs. Running in large convoys reminds me of folks that buy campers with all the comforts of home, and go camping in trailer courts or RV campgrounds parking in neat rows, just like their home in the suburbs. Hey, to each his own. No judgements at all, more power to them. I have a distaste for large convoys, and I understand exactly why.

 

[rustyhardwood]

I have to agree that large convoys , whether it be on foot, bike, or truck , are a bit of a nuisance to say the least. def the last thing i want to see on the trail. Kinda takes away from the whole escaping the rat race thing that we are all trying to get away from.

 

[CR-Venturer]

Exaggerate much? That's mis-characterizing my comments.

No more an exaggeration than what you said, that's for sure.

 

[CR-Venturer]

I made my point extraordinarily clear. Why your statement? If me and a couple of other folks were indeed out in a very remote campsite whether a vehicle campsite or a back packing site, or on a trail, I would find it, without any exaggeration or false characterization, very disturbing if a large convoy just happened to be passing by. I certainly am not familiar at all with "some people" that you make reference to. The entire point of back country camping is to leave the BS behind, back in the proverbial suburbs where it unfortunately belongs. Running in large convoys reminds me of folks that buy campers with all the comforts of home, and go camping in trailer courts or RV campgrounds parking in neat rows, just like their home in the suburbs. Hey, to each his own. No judgements at all, more power to them. I have a distaste for large convoys, and I understand exactly why.

My comment was directed at CSG.