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Hi everyone! I am new to this forum, and I'm so glad to be apart of it.

I have a question for all of you that will listen. :)

I'm thinking about getting a roof top tent (RTT). Do any of you have one? If so, what are the pros and cons of a RTT?

Thank you all so much for your time and your help!
 

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Welcome from Sacramento! I had the same question and found a lot of YouTube videos and pros and cons of a RTT. For me it boiled down to my rig. I have a camper shell on my full size rig (and a lift), and decided that I didn't want me or my family climbing up/down a RTT ladder that high. If you were to get a RTT, what are you putting it on top of? What kind of platform?
 
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Welcome from Sacramento! I had the same question and found a lot of YouTube videos and pros and cons of a RTT. For me it boiled down to my rig. I have a camper shell on my full size rig (and a lift), and decided that I didn't want me or my family climbing up/down a RTT ladder that high. If you were to get a RTT, what are you putting it on top of? What kind of platform?
Thank you so much for getting back to me!

I have been watching a lot of YouTube videos too! Thank you so much for the tip and for your opinion.

I understand why you went the way that you did. Good thinking out for your family!

I have a 4Runner, so I was thinking of putting it on that.

Thank you again for your time and your help!
 
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Thank you so much for getting back to me!

I have been watching a lot of YouTube videos too! Thank you so much for the tip and for your opinion.

I understand why you went the way that you did. Good thinking out for your family!

I have a 4Runner, so I was thinking of putting it on that.

Thank you again for your time and your help!
Most welcome. Hopefully someone with a RTT and a 4Runner (or other rig) will chime in with their experience. Otherwise if you search RTT here you'll get a lot of hits.
 
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Most welcome. Hopefully someone with a RTT and a 4Runner (or other rig) will chime in with their experience. Otherwise if you search RTT here you'll get a lot of hits.
Thank you so much for getting back to me and for your opinions.

I have been looking a previous posts too.

What a great community of people we have in here! Stoked to be apart of it!
 

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I have a rooftop tent on my Discovery, it's fantastic for our application. I have spent 100's of nights in a ground tent over the years, and when I travel by motorcycle i'll return to the ground. What nails it for me is really that you are traveling with a real bed. Our 23zero has an excellent mattress and I sleep like I'm at home.

I understand the rooftop tent does not fit into some people's travel style. We generally only spend one or two nights at a location, when we're traveling with only one car. The times we spend two nights is because we literally want to be stationary for more than 12 hours and we are there to enjoy that specific spot. We have taken the car when visiting friend or relatives and in that case we park up for days at a time sometimes and there are other ways to get around.

For travelers who want to setup a basecamp and day trip then a rooftop can be cumbersome. You need to be willing to budget (if we're honest) 20 minutes at each end of the day for tent take down and setup, if your day tripping. In a hurry I can get the tent up in under five minutes and be inside, and the reverse is the same for take down but that's hustling. I like to pack it up neatly, and who wants to hustle when they're travelling? :wink:

The bottom line is you need to be brutally honest with yourself and decide what your willing to put up with and what your travel style really is and make your own decision.
 

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I have a rooftop tent on my Discovery, it's fantastic for our application. I have spent 100's of nights in a ground tent over the years, and when I travel by motorcycle i'll return to the ground. What nails it for me is really that you are traveling with a real bed. Our 23zero has an excellent mattress and I sleep like I'm at home.

I understand the rooftop tent does not fit into some people's travel style. We generally only spend one or two nights at a location, when we're traveling with only one car. The times we spend two nights is because we literally want to be stationary for more than 12 hours and we are there to enjoy that specific spot. We have taken the car when visiting friend or relatives and in that case we park up for days at a time sometimes and there are other ways to get around.

For travelers who want to setup a basecamp and day trip then a rooftop can be cumbersome. You need to be willing to budget (if we're honest) 20 minutes at each end of the day for tent take down and setup, if your day tripping. In a hurry I can get the tent up in under five minutes and be inside, and the reverse is the same for take down but that's hustling. I like to pack it up neatly, it and who wants to hustle when they're travelling? :wink:

The bottom line is you need to be brutally honest with yourself and decide what your willing to put up with and what your travel style really is and make your own decision.
Thank you so much for getting back to me!

What a great review you just gave me. I really appreciate your time and your help!

You brought up such good points about traveling with an actual bed. Also, I am like you and generally don't spend more then two nights at a location.

I have been researching types of RTTs, like your soft-sided 23zero, and I found Tuff Stuff Overland's Alpha. It is a hard-shell, and it looks like the set up and break down would be a lot quicker then that of a soft-side (less then 2 minutes). But I hear you on packing up neatly and hustling when they travel. That's not my style either.

Thank you again for your opinion!
 
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There has been a lot written on this topic on this board and elsewhere, but you'll find that a lot of people are running RTTs. The market has exploded with innovation over recent years though which has further complicated the question of "What are the pros and cons of RTTs" because each type of RTT has it's own pros and cons.

Hard shell pop tops,, Hard-shell wedge, "Traditional" soft cover clamshell, and "other" (i.e. iKamper) are the main categories I can see. All of 'em have the same basic concept though -- a place to sleep up off the ground. For all tents, here are my general pros and cons:

Pros:

  • You never need to worry about ground condition. If you can drive on it, you can sleep on it -- no worries about sticks, roots, or other things that may be missed at 6 PM but you sure notice them at 3 AM when they are digging into your kidney.
  • Up away from creepy crawlers and predators. An RTT feels a lot safer than a ground tent.
  • Quick to setup. Now, this very much depends on the tent style -- for instance, a wedge-style hard shell is WAY FASTER than any comparable tent for both setup and teardown. A traditional soft-cover clamshell takes almost as much time as a ground tent, but with practice we're talking about a sub-5 minute job in any case.
  • Space. Your bedding and shelter is out of the car on the roof rack (most RTTs allow you to store bedding). This is space freed up in the cab.
  • Flexibility - there are lots of places where a rig with an RTT is welcome but a ground tent may not be, for example, if you are on a long haul on the way somewhere interesting and just need sleep in whatever town you end up in, most RV parks will allow an RTT rig; same with most Wal-Mart-style boon docking locations. They are less keen on having ground tents.

Cons:

  • Weight. Most RTTs are 150lbs, whereas a comparable ground tent can be 1/10th that weight. If you are in a rig that has a low GVM, an RTT may not be a practical choice. The weight is also carried quite high, but that's never been a major issue in my books because the RTT tends to take up so much real-estate that it prevents a person from really loading up the rack to an excessive degree.
  • Cost. Even a cheap RTT is over a thousand bucks. A "Mid-range" RTT can easily run $2k to $3k. Some premium RTTs are north of $6k.
  • Access. If you have mobility issues, or you camp with people/pets who do, accessing the RTT can be a bit trickier than accessing a ground tent.
  • If you tend to go basecamp, it monopolizes the vehicle so you have to go through the process of stowing and pitching it every time you leave camp. This is not an issue if you are staying in different places every day, as many do.


I'm sure there are more but that's a quick top-of-my-head list. So, depending on your travel style and wants, an RTT may be right for you, at which time I would encourage you to spend some time looking at the different designs that are available to delve more into the pros and cons of those individual designs. Some designs have inherent limitations on space for people, for example. Once you've decided on a design, then you can start narrowing down to manufacturer.

I used the word "wants" there intentionally -- I've never met anyone who has made a compelling argument for "needing" an RTT. Plenty of people have travelled the world without one!
 

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There has been a lot written on this topic on this board and elsewhere, but you'll find that a lot of people are running RTTs. The market has exploded with innovation over recent years though which has further complicated the question of "What are the pros and cons of RTTs" because each type of RTT has it's own pros and cons.

Hard shell pop tops,, Hard-shell wedge, "Traditional" soft cover clamshell, and "other" (i.e. iKamper) are the main categories I can see. All of 'em have the same basic concept though -- a place to sleep up off the ground. For all tents, here are my general pros and cons:

Pros:

  • You never need to worry about ground condition. If you can drive on it, you can sleep on it -- no worries about sticks, roots, or other things that may be missed at 6 PM but you sure notice them at 3 AM when they are digging into your kidney.
  • Up away from creepy crawlers and predators. An RTT feels a lot safer than a ground tent.
  • Quick to setup. Now, this very much depends on the tent style -- for instance, a wedge-style hard shell is WAY FASTER than any comparable tent for both setup and teardown. A traditional soft-cover clamshell takes almost as much time as a ground tent, but with practice we're talking about a sub-5 minute job in any case.
  • Space. Your bedding and shelter is out of the car on the roof rack (most RTTs allow you to store bedding). This is space freed up in the cab.
  • Flexibility - there are lots of places where a rig with an RTT is welcome but a ground tent may not be, for example, if you are on a long haul on the way somewhere interesting and just need sleep in whatever town you end up in, most RV parks will allow an RTT rig; same with most Wal-Mart-style boon docking locations. They are less keen on having ground tents.

Cons:

  • Weight. Most RTTs are 150lbs, whereas a comparable ground tent can be 1/10th that weight. If you are in a rig that has a low GVM, an RTT may not be a practical choice. The weight is also carried quite high, but that's never been a major issue in my books because the RTT tends to take up so much real-estate that it prevents a person from really loading up the rack to an excessive degree.
  • Cost. Even a cheap RTT is over a thousand bucks. A "Mid-range" RTT can easily run $2k to $3k. Some premium RTTs are north of $6k.
  • Access. If you have mobility issues, or you camp with people/pets who do, accessing the RTT can be a bit trickier than accessing a ground tent.
  • If you tend to go basecamp, it monopolizes the vehicle so you have to go through the process of stowing and pitching it every time you leave camp. This is not an issue if you are staying in different places every day, as many do.


I'm sure there are more but that's a quick top-of-my-head list. So, depending on your travel style and wants, an RTT may be right for you, at which time I would encourage you to spend some time looking at the different designs that are available to delve more into the pros and cons of those individual designs. Some designs have inherent limitations on space for people, for example. Once you've decided on a design, then you can start narrowing down to manufacturer.

I used the word "wants" there intentionally -- I've never met anyone who has made a compelling argument for "needing" an RTT. Plenty of people have travelled the world without one!
Thank you so much for getting back to me and for your great incite!

I have been doing a lot of research on RTTs, and I think I am leaning towards getting one. I'm just the type of person who wants real peoples opinons on things. People that actually have knowledge on the product. It sounds like you are one of those people.

I too am leaning towards a hard-shell type. I have seen the soft ones too, but I really like the quick set up and break down of the hard-shell types. I saw a brand on the internet called Tuff Stuff Overland. They have a tent called the "Alpha" which looked really cool.

Ultimately I just looking for an additional information so I can make an educated decision. I really appriciate your time and your help!
 
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Thank you so much for getting back to me and for your great incite!

I have been doing a lot of research on RTTs, and I think I am leaning towards getting one. I'm just the type of person who wants real peoples opinons on things. People that actually have knowledge on the product. It sounds like you are one of those people.

I too am leaning towards a hard-shell type. I have seen the soft ones too, but I really like the quick set up and break down of the hard-shell types. I saw a brand on the internet called Tuff Stuff Overland. They have a tent called the "Alpha" which looked really cool.

Ultimately I just looking for an additional information so I can make an educated decision. I really appriciate your time and your help!
Happy to help! Thats my favourite part of this community -- I don't get to travel as much as I used to these days, but helping others in their adventures is a vicarious bit of excitement for me :D And, you'll find a lot of people with this sentiment around here -- "I've learned a lot more than I've shared on OB".

The Tuff Stuff tents look pretty good -- they are in the "other" category, and they are similar to the iKamper. FWIW, my next tent will be that design. We really like the speed of setup and streamlined robustness of the hard-shells, but we need a 4 person space, and the traditional wedge-style doesn't do that.

The challenge with any of these tents is they can look identical in an internet photo, but the quality "up close" can vary widely. Many will publish specs, but not all "400D thread count poly" is created equal so spec sheets are only so useful. When I see the iKamper at north of $3k, but then see a similar design at only $2k, it either means I'm about to pay too much for the iKamper, or the $2k tents are made with much cheaper materials. In my experience with the RTT industry, both outcomes are equally likely, so make sure you get a lot of info on a specific company's offering before pulling the trigger (Unless you want to be our Guinea Pig...and the community needs those for these new products!!)
 

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Happy to help! Thats my favourite part of this community -- I don't get to travel as much as I used to these days, but helping others in their adventures is a vicarious bit of excitement for me :D And, you'll find a lot of people with this sentiment around here -- "I've learned a lot more than I've shared on OB".

The Tuff Stuff tents look pretty good -- they are in the "other" category, and they are similar to the iKamper. FWIW, my next tent will be that design. We really like the speed of setup and streamlined robustness of the hard-shells, but we need a 4 person space, and the traditional wedge-style doesn't do that.

The challenge with any of these tents is they can look identical in an internet photo, but the quality "up close" can vary widely. Many will publish specs, but not all "400D thread count poly" is created equal so spec sheets are only so useful. When I see the iKamper at north of $3k, but then see a similar design at only $2k, it either means I'm about to pay too much for the iKamper, or the $2k tents are made with much cheaper materials. In my experience with the RTT industry, both outcomes are equally likely, so make sure you get a lot of info on a specific company's offering before pulling the trigger (Unless you want to be our Guinea Pig...and the community needs those for these new products!!)
Craig thank you SO much for your time and for your opinions! Everyone has been so helpful. I love this group!

I agree with you 100% on the quality. Pre covid I was attending a lot of meet ups, and was able to feel the fabric of a lot of different types of RTTs. Some are a thick canvas style, and some feel like they would not stand up to any weather at all.

Thank you so much for your time and your help!
 
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Thank you so much for getting back to me and for your great incite!

I have been doing a lot of research on RTTs, and I think I am leaning towards getting one. I'm just the type of person who wants real peoples opinons on things. People that actually have knowledge on the product. It sounds like you are one of those people.

I too am leaning towards a hard-shell type. I have seen the soft ones too, but I really like the quick set up and break down of the hard-shell types. I saw a brand on the internet called Tuff Stuff Overland. They have a tent called the "Alpha" which looked really cool.

Ultimately I just looking for an additional information so I can make an educated decision. I really appriciate your time and your help!
After having the Tuff Stuff Ranger for a year and liking it just fine, I got the ALPHA and really like it. Pulling that cover on the Ranger wasn't bad but the ALPHA is easier for my old bones. ALPHA is well made and king-sized bed large. Maybe bigger than I need, but the smaller Alpha II was going to take longer to get. I'm pleased with it.
 

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BTW, if you go with Tuff Stuff, look for discount codes online from them. Usually get at least 10% discount.
 
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Hi everyone! I am new to this forum, and I'm so glad to be apart of it.

I have a question for all of you that will listen. :)

I'm thinking about getting a roof top tent (RTT). Do any of you have one? If so, what are the pros and cons of a RTT?

Thank you all so much for your time and your help!
I went with the ROAM Vagabond LITE since its the cheapest tent I could find, its 4 season weather proof, very dark inside, and a very comfortable 3 inch thick high density foam mattress. If you're a student you're in luck and they will give you 10% off most likely. I saved about $400 because I'm a student and I preordered it!
 

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After having the Tuff Stuff Ranger for a year and liking it just fine, I got the ALPHA and really like it. Pulling that cover on the Ranger wasn't bad but the ALPHA is easier for my old bones. ALPHA is well made and king-sized bed large. Maybe bigger than I need, but the smaller Alpha II was going to take longer to get. I'm pleased with it.
That is so nice to hear! Thank you SO much for your opinions on Tuff Stuff's RTTs.

Everyone I have talked to regarding their products have been so pleased.

I saw that Alpha 2 as well. That tent is so nice! I love the price point too.
 

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I went with the ROAM Vagabond LITE since its the cheapest tent I could find, its 4 season weather proof, very dark inside, and a very comfortable 3 inch thick high density foam mattress. If you're a student you're in luck and they will give you 10% off most likely. I saved about $400 because I'm a student and I preordered it!
Those are such nice tents. I was looking at those too.

Is there anything that you do not like about the ROAM Vagabond LITE?

Thank you so much for the tip on the discount too! :)
 

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Weight does matter as a well has how many are sleeping in the tent, I have a Tepui Ayer 2 man and it is all of 95 lbs some the bigger tents getup 130-150 as mentioned. There is also the issue of size a hard shell will use your entire roof for the most part.

Here is an image of the 3 options:

A James Bourd knock off, my Tepui and Triangle opening on the White defender. Cost goes up pretty fast the Tepui was 1200.00 CDN the one on the Defender was about 4500 and the JB knock off about 2100 Cdn. Roof rack or load bars are an additional cost.

The clamshells are also higher when closed up

Setup and take down on the hard shells about 5 to 7 minutes , 15 for me but I am fussy about getting everything tucked nice.

Best thing as noted park and sleep anywhere, this is an unused dead end logging road, we ran out of day light and called a day for safety. The 2 people in ground tents took 30 minutes to setup, trying clear rock and find a spot that would stay non-muddy in rain.