Overlanding with "stock" 4X4

[Trail_pilot]

Lind of like the old Jeep CJ 6. Saw a guy in Boston had one in the 1990's. Pretty cool

Not too many people even know the CJ6 even exists lol

 

[M Rose]

Not too many people even know the CJ6 even exists lol

I loved the CJ6... always wanted one.. and a DJ3

 

[Lanlubber In Remembrance]

Not too many people even know the CJ6 even exists lol

Only one I knew of. I almost bought one before I bought my landy. Guy wanted $1000 and needed some assembly. That's why I didn't buy it. I wanted something running. The same with a super nice 90 bronco that needed a tranny fix. That one was $1000 also.

 

[M Rose]

Only one I knew of. I almost bought one before I bought my landy. Guy wanted $1000 and needed some assembly. That's why I didn't buy it. I wanted something running. The same with a super nice 90 bronco that needed a tranny fix. That one was $1000 also.

Should have gotten the BKO, tranny swaps are cheap... we BKO owners practically give our transmissions away after doing the 5 speed swap... or do the 5 speed swap for less than it costs to rebuild the transmission.

Did any of you catch how much Paul Walkers 91 Bronco Went for at Jackson Barrett’s Auction?

 

[Lanlubber In Remembrance]

Should have gotten the BKO, tranny swaps are cheap... we BKO owners practically give our transmissions away after doing the 5 speed swap... or do the 5 speed swap for less than it costs to rebuild the transmission.

Did any of you catch how much Paul Walkers 91 Bronco Went for at Jackson Barrett’s Auction?

Somewhere around $100k I think..!

 

[M Rose]

Somewhere around $100k I think..!

Yea it was insane... another not so well known one sold three weeks prior for $76k

 

[Billiebob]

I suppose I was not that clear, what I meant was that the first year Wrangler YJ borrowed a lot from the XJ (Cherokee) while it was still body on frame like the CJ, with the same wheel base most of the int. drivetrain and suspension was out of the XJ

XJ had front coils, YJ had leafs all around. There were few interchangeable components.

 

[Billiebob]

F134FA, L6226OL, L6226 FA, CJ5, CJ 2A, CJ 3A, CJ 3B, M715, M38?

M38 was my first "car" in 1973.
My Uncle drove a government issued Jeep in Europe, 1944, when all Jeeps were government issued.

 

[M Rose]

I suppose I was not that clear, what I meant was that the first year Wrangler YJ borrowed a lot from the XJ (Cherokee) while it was still body on frame like the CJ, with the same wheel base most of the int. drivetrain and suspension was out of the XJ

I never knew XJ had a body in frame...1983 first year of the XJ was unibody construction... 1983 SJ was the last year of the full size Cherokee... The Jeep Grand Wagoneer ran until 1991 based on the J-10 Chassis (also not an XJ).
The Jeep YJ shared more with its CJ7 Predecessor than any other platform... Late model (1985-1986 Renegade) shared seats, suspension, engine, and transmissions with the 1987-1991 YJ... in 1992 the YJ got the updated 4.0 that had been used in the XJ for the 3 previous years. The other change besides body between the CJ 7 and the YJ was the transfer case... CJ 7 had the Dana 300, while the YJ had the new aluminum NP231. The XJ used the NP242 and the NP231, and the rare XJ had a NP241 (although I have never seen this model).

 

[M Rose]

M38 was my first "car" in 1973.
My Uncle drove a government issued Jeep in Europe, 1944, when all Jeeps were government issued.

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The M38 was the first vehicle I ever drove as well... I remember driving through the fields with my dad beside me as I stood on the seat to see over the wheel... my dad had put a hand throttle in it to govern the PTO for powering the grain auger. Worked great in low range as a cruise control for teaching us kids how to drive.

@Billiebob , nice picture... brings back memories of my grandpa

 

[grubworm]

Not too many people even know the CJ6 even exists lol

is that the jeep that had Scrambler on it? i vaguely remember seeing those a long time ago

 

[Trail_pilot]

is that the jeep that had Scrambler on it? i vaguely remember seeing those a long time ago

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No the scrambler was designated CJ8 which was a longer CJ7. The CJ6 was essentially the same thing but for the CJ5

 

[Downs]

I never knew XJ had a body in frame...1983 first year of the XJ was unibody construction... 1983 SJ was the last year of the full size Cherokee... The Jeep Grand Wagoneer ran until 1991 based on the J-10 Chassis (also not an XJ).
The Jeep YJ shared more with its CJ7 Predecessor than any other platform... Late model (1985-1986 Renegade) shared seats, suspension, engine, and transmissions with the 1987-1991 YJ... in 1992 the YJ got the updated 4.0 that had been used in the XJ for the 3 previous years. The other change besides body between the CJ 7 and the YJ was the transfer case... CJ 7 had the Dana 300, while the YJ had the new aluminum NP231. The XJ used the NP242 and the NP231, and the rare XJ had a NP241 (although I have never seen this model).

Your dates are a little off but overall accurate. XJ's first model year was 84. YJ started gettting the 4.0L in 91 when the HO 4.0 came online not 92. Up to that point they used a carbed 4.2L from older Jeeps.

XJ t-cases in early year models (like the first 3 model years when they still used the 2.8L GM V6) included the NP-228 "Select Trac" full time transfer case and the NP-207 Part time case. As far as I know the 241 was never used in any XJ. Even for one model year. I know the case itself has been around since the 80s but I didn't think it really started getting used in Jeeps till the Rubicons with a 4:1 then later in the non-rubicon JKs as with a standard 2.72:1 ratio.


Example a "241J" with a 2.72:1 ratio.

 

[M Rose]

Your dates are a little off but overall accurate. XJ's first model year was 84. YJ started gettting the 4.0L in 91 when the HO 4.0 came online not 92. Up to that point they used a carbed 4.2L from older Jeeps.

XJ t-cases in early year models (like the first 3 model years when they still used the 2.8L GM V6) included the NP-228 "Select Trac" full time transfer case and the NP-207 Part time case. As far as I know the 241 was never used in any XJ. Even for one model year. I know the case itself has been around since the 80s but I didn't think it really started getting used in Jeeps till the Rubicons with a 4:1 then later in the non-rubicon JKs as with a standard 2.72:1 ratio.


Example a "241J" with a 2.72:1 ratio.

I got my dates right from MOPAR as for the start of the XJ... the 4.0 I knew was 91 or 92... my 88 YJ had a 4.0, but it was a swap from a 97 XJ. I didn’t know anything of the pre 88 XJ transmission/t-cases because I never bothered with them. My uncle had an 84 or 85 with a 4 banger that never ran right when it was cold out.
Like I said I heard of the 241 but I could never confirm... I heard it was the 96+ years... when Dodge was using them in the Durango/Dakota... it might have been a special order??? Idk... like I said could never get confirmation on it. My 98 had the 232 and my 89 had a 242...

Now here is one for you, Did the 80’s XJs ever have a manual sunroof?

 

[Downs]

I got my dates right from MOPAR as for the start of the XJ... the 4.0 I knew was 91 or 92... my 88 YJ had a 4.0, but it was a swap from a 97 XJ. I didn’t know anything of the pre 88 XJ transmission/t-cases because I never bothered with them. My uncle had an 84 or 85 with a 4 banger that never ran right when it was cold out.
Like I said I heard of the 241 but I could never confirm... I heard it was the 96+ years... when Dodge was using them in the Durango/Dakota... it might have been a special order??? Idk... like I said could never get confirmation on it. My 98 had the 232 and my 89 had a 242...

Now here is one for you, Did the 80’s XJs ever have a manual sunroof?

Not sure on year but there were ones that popped up in the rear only like the factory 2 door rear windows and a manual crank version. There's always been debate over if there even were OEM sunroofs or if they were all dealer installed options. Some folks on other forums have been able to show factory build sheets with sunroofs listed on them.

 

[jayfoo]

Heres my 2 copper plated zinc discs worth, Judging by your name your not an average folk. I happen to roll a seriously modified 80 series. BUT I have walked people that took a wrong turn onto Hells revenge in a Jeep compass and succesfully navigated them out to safety. Is it a good idea? not really, but using your head you can push through basically anything. Overlanding, living out of your stock truck thats all comfort stuff.View attachment 123909

Nice!

 

[Billiebob]

is that the jeep that had Scrambler on it? i vaguely remember seeing those a long time ago

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It also came with a full length top and 2 rear seats. But yes, a Scrambler is the one Jeep I really want.

 

[Billiebob]

And then there was the ambulance CJ6.



which might make an ultimate single sleeper overlander

 

[M Rose]

Not sure on year but there were ones that popped up in the rear only like the factory 2 door rear windows and a manual crank version. There's always been debate over if there even were OEM sunroofs or if they were all dealer installed options. Some folks on other forums have been able to show factory build sheets with sunroofs listed on them.

I was asking because my 89 had a hand crank on between the front and rear doors... it looked factory, even had a Jeep logo, but was told it was aftermarket on the Jeep forums...

 

[Boostpowered]

Aside from a welded rear diff, overbored engine, half tube chassis and larger tires my 4x4 is technically still a stock 1980 chevy dually. Its pretty darn capable.