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Like that bumpside Ford, of course my first ride was in a 1967 Ford F250 at 3 days old. Spent a lot of time in it growing up and learned how to drive in it. Still have it but it needs a lot of TLC now. Hope to bring it up to N ID next year from my mom's in N CA and start working on it. My dad got it a few months before I was born in 1972.

Any dates you're thinking about? Labor day week in September? I'll probably drive my 4bt Jeep M715.
 

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I'm a big fan of 1960s technology. Way more reliable than 2020s technology.

But keep it close to stock. Quite right you can rebuild an old truck for way less than what building up a new truck would cost. And it seems none of the new trucks are capable stock anyway so I'd sooner make a statement driving an old truck.

These were all up for sale in the past year for under $20K.

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I'm with you on the 60's. I love the simplicity of old machines. I alternate between my 1968 Bronco and my 1966 Barracuda as my daily driver when it's not raining. There is something special about a huge thin steering wheel, tons of glass and and simple radio without GPS and other distractions. Buy and old rig and drive the heck out of it. Most likely when you go to sell it in a few years.. it'll be worth at least what you paid for it or maybe a lot more! You certainly can't do that with a new vehicle.
 

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So no GPS, nothing but paper maps?
I have the WA Benchmark atlas and the backroads discovery route maps.
That would be in keeping with the old-school theme. I have the WA Delorme Atlas. I'm sure between your Benchmark Atlas, my Delorme Atlas, and out WABDR maps we should all be good.
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The first 2 sections of the wbdr are mostly just gravel roads , nothing to challenging so would be a great choice for some older rigs to slowly cruise along and enjoy the drive .
Exactly - you've got it! "Slowly cruise along and enjoy the view". This isn't about doing a technically difficult trail requiring lockers and winches; it is about traveling together and enjoying the beautiful scenery the PNW has to offer - and camping in a different spot every night. And doing it in a vehicle that doesn't have all the modern bells-and-whistles. I don't plan on beating-up anybody's vehicle, including my own on this trip.

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@Billiebob that is exactly what I would dream of having, but this poor ol' boy can't afford that.

Though, the argument to present to the wife is forming in my head now...
 

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So I just saw the NWOL dates were changed to Labor Day weekend. Could we either start or end at the show?
 

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It starts with a concept. Here's mine. Old School Run. This summer. One option is the Pacific Crest Overland Route, Oregon Segment. Check out the link in post #6. I've never run this route, just read about it. We rally at Hood River, and head out from there. Hopefully the OR camping ban has lifted by then.

Other excellent options (and in some ways possibly better than the OR route above) include the Pacific Crest Overland Route, Washington Segment. It starts in Bellingham and ends at Hood River.


Are you familiar with Backcountry Discovery Routes and their maps? They're pretty cool.


This is another awesome PNW WA option for overlanding the state, this time border to border from OR to Canada.

WA map link: Washington Backcountry Discovery Route (WABDR) Map & Information

They even filmed the WABDR: I'm afraid if I watch it then I'll be hot to run it.


They (BDR) have a map for many states including WA (I've got a copy), but they don't have one for OR. Oregon is doing their own thing.


I've got nearly all the BDR maps. Good stuff and while not challenging in most 4wheel drive vehicles they make excellent trips.
 
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So I just saw the NWOL dates were changed to Labor Day weekend. Could we either start or end at the show?
Yes, of course. Right now we're playing it by ear till this virus thing settles down. I'm getting ready to put disc brakes on the front of the Willys in preparation for the old school run.

How many folks who want to do the Old School Run plan on going to the NWOL Rally?

Probably the smart thing to do would be to start after the show. Since I don't know exactly how long it would take us from start to finish (technically should be six days) I'd hate to be wrong by a day or so (you never know... breakdowns, detours etc.). Plus, doing it this way everyone has all the new toys & gadgets they just bought from the Rally vendors, and you're already set-to-go (other than refilling ice chests and such).

So I'm looking at the WA Back country discovery route (WABDR) map. I'm thinking this will be our Old School Run (OSR) this go-round. If you don't have a WABDR map, order one (every vehicle should have their own WABDR map in addition to any supplemental maps you might bring with you). Check it out - lots of info on the route:


The map costs $14.95. Link to purchase WABDR map: Butler Motorcycle Maps - Washington Backcountry Discovery Route (WABDR) (yes you can take 4x4s on this route - and probably VW buggies too).

The NWOL Rally ends on a Sunday if I remember right (I've been to the last two NWOL Rally Events - I really enjoyed them). Figure we'll leave the Rally/Leavenworth in the morning and then it will take the rest of the day for everyone to get to the starting point (near Stevenson, WA on the WA/OR border) in the late afternoon/evening. So we would then head out as a group on Monday morning to start section #1 of the WABDR. I need to drive down to Stevenson WA beforehand and see what kind of campgrounds are there, and what would be a good rally point (any good sporting goods stores down there?). Anyone familiar with the area?

MapQuest says Leavenworth WA to Stevenson WA is 229 miles, and about 4.5 hours. Actually better than I thought.

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Or we could put a day in-between, and plan on heading out of Stevenson WA on Tuesday morning (might work out better for some folks... thoughts?). Some folks might need an extra day for turn-around before starting another adventure. I might have a different camp set-up for the NWOL Rally (going heavy - truck and lots of gear) compared to the old school run (going light - whatever I can put on the passenger seat and in the back of the Willys). I'm near Vancouver, WA (Longview/Kelso area), so from home to Leavenworth is quite the trip in itself, so I doubt I'll take the Willys to the NWOL Rally (but you never know...). Planning for the trip is part of the fun!

MapQuest says Leavenworth to Longview to Stevenson WA is 325 miles and about 5.75 hours driving.

The WABDR is broken down into six sections. Sections 1 - 6 mileage goes like this (in order): 120 miles, 122 miles, 77 miles, 104 miles, 103 miles, and 66 miles (ends at the Nighthawk Border Crossing). I would like to do just one section a day - if we finish a section early that day - great! More time to set-up camp and explore where we're at (it isn't a race).

Once we get over this virus thing and can start planning thing out in the future, I'll post a Rally Point thing for this Old School Run.

Till then, tell me your thoughts.
 
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The other reason for wanting to do just one section of the WABDR a day (see previous post above), would be so if folks wanted to join us for just part of the route, they could plan accordingly (baring any major breakdowns or detours on our part).

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Sounds good to me. I'll leave from Leavenworth and meander down to Stevenson on backroads. I'll just need to be back to work on the following Monday so I'll need to finish the route Saturday evening or first thing Sunday morning.
Anyone else online shopping for their rigs? I've resisted some but have done a little to keep small business cash flow trickling in.
 

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Sounds good to me. I'll leave from Leavenworth and meander down to Stevenson on backroads. I'll just need to be back to work on the following Monday so I'll need to finish the route Saturday evening or first thing Sunday morning.
Anyone else online shopping for their rigs? I've resisted some but have done a little to keep small business cash flow trickling in.
If we want to play it safe, then we need to all arrive Sunday afternoon/evening to Stevenson, so we can meet-up Monday morning and start the WABDR. If all goes well, we should finish it that Saturday (six days later).

And that means when we meet-up (rally) on Monday morning at the designated time (not too early!), and place - everyone has already gassed-up, filled their jerry cans, eaten breakfast, filled their coolers, etc., and are ready-to-roll at the designated time.
 
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I just ordered a little over $100 from Kaiser-Willys for my 2A. About half of that was for the start of the disc brake conversion for the front axle. Probably next week I'll order about $250 or so in parts from Rock Auto for the bulk of the disc brake conversion (discs, calipers, rotors, brake line, etc.). And another $50 or so from Summit racing for more brake stuff (residual pressure valves).

Usually when I overland, I've got my Jeep TJ and trailer, so I'm really not limited to what I can bring. For this Old School Run, I plan on taking just the Willys (no trailer), so I'll be limited in what I can take. So I'll be getting some new gear to "downsize". Probably a small tent and cot, and I'll have to really get small on my kitchen/cooking stuff.CA pre-run.1.jpg
 
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I just ordered a little over $100 from Kaiser-Willys for my 2A. About half of that was for the start of the disc brake conversion for the front axle. Probably next week I'll order about $250 or in parts from Rock Auto for the bulk of the disc brake conversion (discs, calipers, rotors, brake line, etc.). And another $50 or so from Summit racing for more brake stuff (residual pressure valves).

Usually when I overland, I've got my Jeep TJ and trailer, so I'm really not limited to what I can bring. For this Old School Run, I plan on taking just the Willys (no trailer), so I'll be limited in what I can take. So I'll be getting some new gear to "downsize". Probably a small tent and cot, and I'll have to really get small on my kitchen/cooking stuff.
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I just ordered a little over $100 from Kaiser-Willys for my 2A. About half of that was for the start of the disc brake conversion for the front axle. Probably next week I'll order about $250 or in parts from Rock Auto for the bulk of the disc brake conversion (discs, calipers, rotors, brake line, etc.). And another $50 or so from Summit racing for more brake stuff (residual pressure valves).

Usually when I overland, I've got my Jeep TJ and trailer, so I'm really not limited to what I can bring. For this Old School Run, I plan on taking just the Willys (no trailer), so I'll be limited in what I can take. So I'll be getting some new gear to "downsize". Probably a small tent and cot, and I'll have to really get small on my kitchen/cooking stuff.
I'm with you on the traveling light. I'll be doing the same.. Just my Bronco and compact camping gear to keep things light and simple.
 

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Old school run sounds fun but unfortunately, it is too far for me to attend, the Fj would easily make it, however, my issue is time away from work.