Money = Time = Money. Overlanding on YOUR budget.

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I'm new to OB but have been overlanding in one way or another for 40+ years. I was born on and grew up on an off-grid hippy compound (called The Land) in the high desert of northern Arizona.

The point of the long post below is that you can overland in the vehicle you have today. If you're willing to. If you spend some time learning to drive in a conscientious, thoughtful way, you won't do damage to your vehicle, and more importantly, you won't do damage to the trails.

You can get to almost any place worth getting to with one or a combination of these three transportation modes: feet, beast, or mechanical.

If you've got more money than time, spend that to do the overlanding you want and can afford to do. The key is to go do some overlanding.
If you've got more time than money, spend that to do the overlanding you want and can afford to do. The key is to go do some overlanding.

It doesn't matter if you spend ten hours building your camp kitchen and someone else spent $1200 of their paycheck buying a camp kitchen. You both can be proud of the work you did to get that kitchen.

It doesn't matter if you got your shelter from Goodwill, Walmart, or from Adventure Trailers or Into The Wild Overland. What matters is whether you are protected from the elements while you're out there overlanding.

You need six things to overland:

1) The desire.
2) The time.
3) Some food and water.
4) Some kind of transportation (feet, beast, or mechanical).
5) A place to go.
6) Some kind of shelter for when you get there.

So, the question is: What's keeping you from taking that overland trip from where you are to where you want to be?



A tiny piece of my overlanding story
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The first vehicle I can remember was a horse-drawn wagon that we would take to Winslow for "provisions." We rode that 20 miles over desert. I guess you can call that "overlanding." It didn't cost a lot to equip: a couple of horses or mules and some tire repairs (it had a truck axle and tires). 0WD, but 4-8 HoofDrive, I suppose you could say.

We rode horses to do most of our exploring when I was young. Eventually we started buying and frankensteining motorcycles from junkyards. Those took us the same places as the horses, but faster, louder, and with more maintenance, breakage, and cost. They were a blast.

I learned to drive a non-motorcycle automobile in a 1966 Chevrolet C60 2-ton flatbed 2WD truck. Single speed rear differential. We could fit everything we wanted onto that thing. Very low first gear (50:1 crawl ratio); you usually started in second. We did contract work for the USFS. When school was out, we'd load up a teepee, six to ten sets of chainsaw gear, provisions for a month, six kids, several workers, and a couple of dogs into that and head out to the forests for a month or two. We went everywhere with The Big Truck, if we got stuck, the kids would do the recovery by pushing. The 42" tires made easy work of most obstacles, but those split rim wheels were terrifying. We only carried a hand pump, so when we got a flat we (the kids) took turns pumping the tires back up after the repair. We didn't carry a spare; my dad thought it built character to make his kids pump up a 42" tire to 110 PSI, and with 6 wheels, we could have two flats and still drive if necessary (and not loaded).

We had many different, traded or purchased for almost nothing vehicles. I remember a pair of Chevrolet Chevettes that we also overlanded in. With (by that time) eight kids, two adults: four kids and one adult in each Chevette and bottoming out at every bump. We went all over northern Arizona, across the Navajo Reservation, into Utah, New Mexico, wherever, almost always on dirt "roads" that some people in a pickup truck would avoid.

When I moved away for college, I got a Yamaha Virago motorcycle and took that everywhere: highways, offroad, whatever. I usually drank cold coffee and ate cold food when camping with it, but still loved being out and about. All I really needed was a sleeping bag.

About 20 years ago, my aunt gave me a 140,000 mile 1989 Toyota pickup Kingcab with a 22RE; 2WD. That went everywhere too, but this time with more gear. I bought a Coleman camp stove 2-burner from Goodwill that I'm still using today.

I loved that truck. But, there's no space for a carseat in a Kingcab. So when my kid came along, we sold it (yes, huge mistake, but we didn't have any money) and got a more practical vehicle: first a minivan, which we took everywhere, then a Subaru Outback, which we also took everywhere.

In 2007 I bought my first new vehicle: A Tacoma TRD Off Road with all the offroad bells and whistles: 4WD, locking rear diff, crawl control, etc. I loved that truck. And I started using it for field work.
But, my dad got sick and needed my help more and more on The Land.

So, in 2013 I sold the Taco and bought a Tundra so I could tow and haul more gear out there. I loved that truck too. My dad died in 2018 and I don't go out to The Land as much as I used to.


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Last month I bought a 2019 TRD Off Road Taco because that's the size and capability of truck I feel best in.

I'll be kitting it out for field work. All kit is easily removable and only some goes on any given trip. Much of this is not necessary for overlanding; my truck is also sometimes my office.

Easily added (or removed):
* An easily-removable secondary power kit in a box:
** An auxiliary battery.
** A 1KW+ inverter.
** Some PV panels.
* Various tools in a kit.
* My camp kitchen and tables.
* A pop-up awning.
* Eventually a taller, skinnier set of tires.
* A spare fuel container, but only for trips that are further from a fuel source.

These are *MAYBES* (I have to do the trade-off consideration; none of these are easily removable and therefore change capability of the truck):
* Some rock sliders.
* A cap or walk-in topper.
* A camp shower.

These are No:
* No Hi-Lift.
* No winch.
* No new suspension until needed (10 or more years).
* No snorkel.
* No new bumper until needed (never?).
* No to a bunch of other things...
(I'm not casting aspersions on the people who have these, I drool over them when I see them. I don't need them for the kind of overlanding I do.)
 

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Makes me think about the guys I go "overlanding" with and their vehicles. We range from a VERY low dollar Jeep XJ, a second Gen 4runner with no lift, and some good tires, a couple of midsize trucks with mild suspension work and a jeep JK on 35s. Guess what? we all make it to the destination, all with a smile on our faces.
 
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Great post!

I make pretty good money, and a running joke among some co-workers is that we basically spend a lot of extra time doing this job that pays us more money than most, just so we can pay somebody to do the basic chores (oil changes, home repairs, etc) that we simply don't have time to do.

Extremely accurate statement that time = money = time!

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We joke that our dream job is being a garbage man, because you wake up early, finish your shift by 2, make a decent wage, and never once think about work once you leave hah.
 
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I remember when we used to call it back country camping. I started with a VW, then an MGB, then a Mazda 618, then a Plymouth Arrow p/u (Mitsubishi) with an old school Bel Air style shell and carpet kit, then a full size GMC 2x4 with a 9' Lance camper, then a GMC 4x4 (with the same Lance), and finally, a Lexus Land Cruiser and 2x4 Pleasure Way Traverse camping van. I've gotten a little more remote with the 4x4's but had just as much fun with my backpack in the small trunk of the MG.

Now, I'm looking, as I've gotten older to replace the Traverse with a rig that has a proper toilet and shower. I'm tired of the porta potti and bottle showers. I'd like off-road 4x4 but will likely settle for another 2x4 van.
 

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"What's keeping you from taking that overland trip from where you are to where you want to be? "

Money and a bad back.
 

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For me it always comes down to timing and money lol. Already have the desire and rig is as ready as it’s going to be. Want to be able to go when kids are on school break and have enough for food and gas. At about 13-15 mpg gas is always a strong factor especially with a 45 gallon tank lol.
 

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"What's keeping you from taking that overland trip from where you are to where you want to be? "

Money and a bad back.
The bad back: Understood. Mine is okay now, thanks to an excellent strength coach, but for about 10 years I couldn't sit in a vehicle without being in pain. I didn't do as much overlanding/camping as I wanted.


For me it always comes down to timing and money lol. Already have the desire and rig is as ready as it’s going to be. Want to be able to go when kids are on school break and have enough for food and gas. At about 13-15 mpg gas is always a strong factor especially with a 45 gallon tank lol.

Money: That's one of the reasons I started this post: Many, many, many of the rigs we see on these forums, at the expositions, and running around town are $30k+ base vehicles with another $10k+ up through to $150k+ vehicles (Mad Max RVs). I even have one myself. I didn't always, though.

But we don't need to spend that kind of money to get out and about. Overlanding from the northermost of the Americas to the southernmost, maybe (although I have read many reports by people who have done that in their 1960s VW vanagon that cost them $3k. Do you need to spend that kind of money if you're overlanding from home to a secluded spot 100 or 200 miles from home? No. Some might just call that camping. I think the difference, if there is one, depends on your attitude.

Gas: 200 miles / 13 mpg = 15 gallons * $4/gallon = $60. That's not nothing, that's for sure, especially if it's one-way. In my mind, this leads to some other threads about gear. Is there a piece of gear you haven't used since you bought it or put it on your rig? Can it be sold? I know that's not necessarily an option for many, including you, @RoarinRow. Not all of us have much in the way of "excess" gear.

Food: You're not going to be eating much more than you do any other time. Maybe you'll want some different things than normal, but different doesn't have to mean more expensive.

Anyway, I'm not trying to solve the issues any particular person might have with getting a chance to overland.

I did want to reiterate my point of saying, you can do it in whatever vehicle you have, (again: feet, beast, mechanical, automotive) so don't let THAT be the reason you don't get out there.
 

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The bad back: Understood. Mine is okay now, thanks to an excellent strength coach, but for about 10 years I couldn't sit in a vehicle without being in pain. I didn't do as much overlanding/camping as I wanted.





Money: That's one of the reasons I started this post: Many, many, many of the rigs we see on these forums, at the expositions, and running around town are $30k+ base vehicles with another $10k+ up through to $150k+ vehicles (Mad Max RVs). I even have one myself. I didn't always, though.

But we don't need to spend that kind of money to get out and about. Overlanding from the northermost of the Americas to the southernmost, maybe (although I have read many reports by people who have done that in their 1960s VW vanagon that cost them $3k. Do you need to spend that kind of money if you're overlanding from home to a secluded spot 100 or 200 miles from home? No. Some might just call that camping. I think the difference, if there is one, depends on your attitude.

Gas: 200 miles / 13 mpg = 15 gallons * $4/gallon = $60. That's not nothing, that's for sure, especially if it's one-way. In my mind, this leads to some other threads about gear. Is there a piece of gear you haven't used since you bought it or put it on your rig? Can it be sold? I know that's not necessarily an option for many, including you, @RoarinRow. Not all of us have much in the way of "excess" gear.

Food: You're not going to be eating much more than you do any other time. Maybe you'll want some different things than normal, but different doesn't have to mean more expensive.

Anyway, I'm not trying to solve the issues any particular person might have with getting a chance to overland.

I did want to reiterate my point of saying, you can do it in whatever vehicle you have, (again: feet, beast, mechanical, automotive) so don't let THAT be the reason you don't get out there.
On the other side of the coin while I would like to keep personal expenses down so I can travel/overland, fixing/modifying my rig has become/always been a hobby of mine.

But the reason why I am her at OB is that I feel I am ready to take it to the next level and really get out there. Like others I won’t know what to take out or add until I have some off-grid adventures under my belt.

For now I can only visualize what I think I might need or not. My rig and desire are ready.
 
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I think one issue with people getting out exploring is they have this kind of mindset that you need to take this big long multi-state couple thousand miles adventure to really go over Landing. Most the time you can find a forest service road close to you and just see where it goes, you might really be amazed and surprised at what you find so close to home. And if you're just getting started that is the best thing to do if you've never really been camping before don't make your first trip a couple hundred miles from home find something close so if you have a major issue or forget some very important piece of gear it's not going to ruin your whole trip.
 

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I think one issue with people getting out exploring is they have this kind of mindset that you need to take this big long multi-state couple thousand miles adventure to really go over Landing. Most the time you can find a forest service road close to you and just see where it goes, you might really be amazed and surprised at what you find so close to home. And if you're just getting started that is the best thing to do if you've never really been camping before don't make your first trip a couple hundred miles from home find something close so if you have a major issue or forget some very important piece of gear it's not going to ruin your whole trip.
You're absolutely right. I should have chosen a smaller distance than 100-200 miles.

One of the reasons I live where I do is because I've got this within 20 miles of my home. I can go camping, exploring, hiking, overlanding for an afternoon or a day or an overnight or a weekend or a week or a month or more (depending on available time and other resources) and I can travel as much distance as I like.


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