Is Overlanding Dead?

A recent MIT Media Lab study reported that “excessive reliance on AI-driven solutions” may contribute” to “cognitive atrophy” and shrinking of critical thinking abilities.

But I hold out the hope that my generation will be part of the resistance.

the internet and "AI" is just like everything else...take the news for example: if I want info on how bad republicans are, I go to CNN...if I want to hear democrats are bad, I go to Fox news. if im feeling spiritual, there are countless religions that will tell me what I want to hear. just like AI...I specifically worded my question a certain way to get an answer that aligns with what I'm wanting to hear. AI uses algorithms, (just like Google, amazon, etc...) its merely pattern recognition. amazon has been doing it since the beginning where your searches are stored and analyzed and the pages of items are geared toward that info. I search Youtube for videos on camping and now every time I sign in, I get a home page of all outdoor related stuff followed by a stream of Amazon ads for tents. AI is pretty much like talking to a sociopath where they tell you what you want to hear based on their keen ability to cold read people and quickly see patterns that they can use to manipulate and exploit you. "AI" is still in its infancy as being a social norm, but that is how it works. resistance is good, but people need to understand how it works and why it works in order to better resist it. AI is promoted as being this neutral fact based super intelligence that has the right answer for everything. AI is being controlled and for me, anything that can be controlled cant be trusted...
I used Google AI on another thread on here about the Battle Born lithium batteries causing a fire. The AI answer was that it is perfectly safe to store said battery next to a propane tank in an enclosed space. Really?
as my earlier Google search, it went along with my premise that "overlanding" is a marketing ploy. now I ask Google AI if "overlanding" is misunderstood and it gives answers geared toward that and immediately has a search link about 'In defense of Overlanding'. is it a ploy or does it need to be defended? OR is it telling me what it thinks I want to hear so that I will rely on it more and more?

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like I said, I'm a Gen X that has been self reliant all my life and is now cynical and sarcastic. I've been to the puppet show and I've seen the strings. Now I pretty much resist everything...if I do delve into social media, AI, or anything of that nature, its usually just for my amusement :grinning:

but yeah, a lot of folk rely solely on it and have definitely developed cognitive atrophy. hopefully most will see it as the BS it actually is and will start reading books or simply go outside and develop some skills other than fast thumbs clicking a phone screen...

concerning overlanding...I'm expecting to see it rise again when people get fed up with all the politics and AI and just overall overloaded with everything. the solace of nature is healing and redeeming and that will never die
 
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A recent MIT Media Lab study reported that “excessive reliance on AI-driven solutions” may contribute” to “cognitive atrophy” and shrinking of critical thinking abilities.

But I hold out the hope that my generation will be part of the resistance.

Can confirm AI is making people dumber, or at least much lazier, as so many people post up AI summaries as factual answers to technical questions/specs when in reality the info is quite often very incorrect but they couldn't be bothered to confirm the info before sharing it.

I've used AI to help design some PowerPoint slides, but beyond that I've mainly used it for entertainment. It's fun to get it to do things that it says it cannot do, most recently I've had it create 2 images depicting exactly what I asked it to create when initially it refused due to being unable to create images that contain "dangerous situations" or "public figures." Can't wait for the AI bubble to burst.

As for overlanding being dead, I would say it definitely isn't dead yet as I live in one of the most popular overlanding areas in the country and it's still full of vans, trucks and SUVs with RTTs, etc. The forums are definitely dying, I was surprised when I came back here recently and there were like 4 members online and hardly any activity in threads daily. I admin a couple of forums (one that's a little larger than OB) and have noticed a decline in activity there as well, it's a vehicle-specific forum not related to overlanding. Not sure if it's a change in medium with people starting to use Reddit and such more than traditional forums or what. But, based on what I see out on the road and on the forums, I feel like the overlanding bubble has burst and it's shrinking back to its normal niche activity rather than being an activity the pandemic pushed a lot of people into.

I have no plans to stop overlanding, though this past year I haven't done any due to moving and getting settled in.
 
the internet and "AI" is just like everything else...take the news for example: if I want info on how bad republicans are, I go to CNN...if I want to hear democrats are bad, I go to Fox news. if im feeling spiritual, there are countless religions that will tell me what I want to hear. just like AI...I specifically worded my question a certain way to get an answer that aligns with what I'm wanting to hear. AI uses algorithms, (just like Google, amazon, etc...) its merely pattern recognition. amazon has been doing it since the beginning where your searches are stored and analyzed and the pages of items are geared toward that info. I search Youtube for videos on camping and now every time I sign in, I get a home page of all outdoor related stuff followed by a stream of Amazon ads for tents. AI is pretty much like talking to a sociopath where they tell you what you want to hear based on their keen ability to cold read people and quickly see patterns that they can use to manipulate and exploit you. "AI" is still in its infancy as being a social norm, but that is how it works. resistance is good, but people need to understand how it works and why it works in order to better resist it. AI is promoted as being this neutral fact based super intelligence that has the right answer for everything. AI is being controlled and for me, anything that can be controlled cant be trusted...
I used Google AI on another thread on here about the Battle Born lithium batteries causing a fire. The AI answer was that it is perfectly safe to store said battery next to a propane tank in an enclosed space. Really?
as my earlier Google search, it went along with my premise that "overlanding" is a marketing ploy. now I ask Google AI if "overlanding" is misunderstood and it gives answers geared toward that and immediately has a search link about 'In defense of Overlanding'. is it a ploy or does it need to be defended? OR is it telling me what it thinks I want to hear so that I will rely on it more and more?

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like I said, I'm a Gen X that has been self reliant all my life and is now cynical and sarcastic. I've been to the puppet show and I've seen the strings. Now I pretty much resist everything...if I do delve into social media, AI, or anything of that nature, its usually just for my amusement :grinning:

but yeah, a lot of folk rely solely on it and have definitely developed cognitive atrophy. hopefully most will see it as the BS it actually is and will start reading books or simply go outside and develop some skills other than fast thumbs clicking a phone screen...

concerning overlanding...I'm expecting to see it rise again when people get fed up with all the politics and AI and just overall overloaded with everything. the solace of nature is healing and redeeming and that will never die
An interesting couple of things, as I have been played with AI to write a story with limited information. Yuck- it was so thick with saccharine I barfed, then laughed because it sounded so stupid and melodramatic. I’ll never use AI for story telling, and now it’s easy to spot content creators that do. Really? How is it possible that each and every place you visit is “life changingly beautiful” ? In real life? A handful of places in North America are life changing. I’ve actually been to two of them. But life changing, is in the eye of the beholder. The other? As an experiment I wrote a very short story and I asked AI to make it better. AI changed one adjective, which was, once again, saccharin sweetness, yuk. Here is what I got when I asked AI for a cartoon of a pop up camper, but thats it. Finally, I fed information about our travel plans for 2026, overlanding, wild camping, with the occasional state or national parks, staying away from cities, interstates and major highways, primarily using dirt, gravel & country roads. All while avoiding cold weather, chasing temps between 45 & 80 & ending at the Arctic Ocean in the NWT around mid August and departing mid September, dropping south and being back in Rhode Island by mid December. AI completely omitted Texas. Completely omitted the Four Corners region, the AZ strip, Death Valley, lake Sinclair, the UP etc. What’s nice is, there are many that will use AI for traveling and they will be on major roadways, major destinations and tourist traps!! Merry Christmas Everybody 1766442919077.png
 
yeah, lots of truth in that video. it also goes for everything else in our lives....I've wood worked most of my life and there are millions of woodworking gadgets that sell like crazy but are really not necessary and many are bought, but then never used. I have some. same as cooking. how many expensive cooking tools and gadgets do people buy that they don't need.
I'm telling you, advertising companies are geniuses when it comes to hacking our emotions in order to get us to buy products. just look at how crazy weddings are now...$30,000 for a venue that lasts one night for a marriage that doesn't last as long as a set of KO3s.

this video should make us think about everything else in our lives that we buy but don't really need
 
Is Overlanding Dead?

overlanding isn't dead...but a little part of me dies every time I see stuff like this...:neutral:

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Saw this vid awhile ago- the dude is hilariously spot on.

Except for the lockers part.


And he beats that car. There's no way I'm putting my family in that thing for a cross country drive without a ton of time on a garages lift.
 
Except for the lockers part.


And he beats that car. There's no way I'm putting my family in that thing for a cross country drive without a ton of time on a garages lift.
Ya, when we had the LC, never beat on it. I’d rather break out the winch to use as a helper than depend on momentum. Beating that LX? He has more money than brains. But he is funny as shit!
 
True dat.

Momentum is only or tool on flat ice or snow, never rocks and bumps. It's 1000miles home. Price that AAA tow bill.

But he's dead on about most other things.