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Crossed twice last year into Canada. No real issues. Got searched on our initial entry into Canada. They said it was because of the Harbor Freight Rifle case I had on the roof for recovery gear / chairs. Forgot to declare the pocket knives I had in the center console but they didn't say anything to me about them. Just left them laying out on the dashboard. A week later coming back across into Canada there was no issues.

Found out that they don't let blueberries of any form from USA crossing into Canada. Frozen, canned, fresh it doesn't matter.
 

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I welcome anyone to visit Canada, even more so Americans since they all have been welcoming to me!
We have some amazing trails and some of the best sightseeing in North America.
I am about 4 hours from Banff but I visit every year.
I am very new to driving off road and trails but it seems like there is a pretty good size community of people that do organized off-road events and a big outdoors community.
I have driven some trails around Canmore and Banff area not far from main highways. Great scenery!
Maybe check out this guys on YouTube, they are based around AB tons and do tons of off roading and camping in Banff and surrounding areas
 

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Cool! Let me know if you plan to be around the Edmonton area and we can perhaps meet up for a pint at the pub!

On the bear spray vs pepper spray thing - yes, Canada has some incredibly moronic laws. "Pepper spray" is not allowed, but "bear spray" and even "coyote spray" is allowed...I'll leave off the commentary on WHO installed these laws, for the sake of avoiding all politics on OB, but needless to say, it's one of many very stupid laws enacted by very, very stupid people.
I think I’ve mentioned that over the decades I’ve been coming in & out of Canada a few times a week. Well, if you knew me, you’d know how easily it is to strike up a conversation. I’ve spoken to more than a few agents about the bear spray / pepper / dog spray. The difference is, bear spray is in a huge can that is nearly impossible to carry undetected. Pepper spray can be hidden, therefore a concealed weapon. Stupid? Not really. As a side note- it’s been Canadian law since 1998 so certainly not a new law.
No, it's very stupid, believe me on that. They sell the little pocket sized pepper spray cans at every Canadian Tire marked "dog spray" or "coyote spray" alternatively. Perfectly legal, and contains the exact same stuff as "pepper spray" which is illegal. The fact that it's been around since 1998 doesn't make it any less stupid of a law.
 

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Question: anyone know the stance on crossing the border with the non lethal Byrna Launches? Kind of like the bear bangers but with a kinetic thump!! I am willing to bet the CS and pepper pellets are no-gos, but plastic pellets…unsure?
 

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No, it's very stupid, believe me on that. They sell the little pocket sized pepper spray cans at every Canadian Tire marked "dog spray" or "coyote spray" alternatively. Perfectly legal, and contains the exact same stuff as "pepper spray" which is illegal. The fact that it's been around since 1998 doesn't make it any less stupid of a law.
Your original wording could easily lead an uninformed reader to believe that it is a recent law enacted by the current unpopular PM and parliment. Thank you for clarifying. There are stupid laws everywhere, some dumber than others. Here in the states all one has to do is cross a state line and end up with state felony charges for not having the proper permit for a sidearm. Stupid? Yes. But the same people that are offended by this stupidity are the same people that have a long history of voting against any form of centralized government. I have a problem with permithrin. What is purchased at a back country outfitter has the very same ingredients as permithrin at a farm/agricultural store. The only difference is the permithrin from the ag store is concentrate and needs to be cut about 10-1.
 

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No, it's very stupid, believe me on that. They sell the little pocket sized pepper spray cans at every Canadian Tire marked "dog spray" or "coyote spray" alternatively. Perfectly legal, and contains the exact same stuff as "pepper spray" which is illegal. The fact that it's been around since 1998 doesn't make it any less stupid of a law.
Your original wording could easily lead an uninformed reader to believe that it is a recent law enacted by the current unpopular PM and parliment. Thank you for clarifying. There are stupid laws everywhere, some dumber than others. Here in the states all one has to do is cross a state line and end up with state felony charges for not having the proper permit for a sidearm. Stupid? Yes. But the same people that are offended by this stupidity are the same people that have a long history of voting against any form of centralized government. I have a problem with permithrin. What is purchased at a back country outfitter has the very same ingredients as permithrin at a farm/agricultural store. The only difference is the permithrin from the ag store is concentrate and needs to be cut about 10-1.
No, it wasn't the current or very recently resigned PM. It happens to have been the same party though.

Common sense is not as common as we would all wish it was, unfortunately.
 

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Question: anyone know the stance on crossing the border with the non lethal Byrna Launches? Kind of like the bear bangers but with a kinetic thump!! I am willing to bet the CS and pepper pellets are no-gos, but plastic pellets…unsure?
Nope CDN LE only in Canada - no one else
 
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Question: anyone know the stance on crossing the border with the non lethal Byrna Launches? Kind of like the bear bangers but with a kinetic thump!! I am willing to bet the CS and pepper pellets are no-gos, but plastic pellets…unsure?
Nope CDN LE only in Canada - no one else
Found this: Byrna Canada | The Best Home & Self Defense Products

Seems to suggest they are somehow considered legal, but I am quite skeptical of that. Would have to do more research.

EDIT: A quick search shows me they are not classed as a firearm in Canada and can be bought here from a couple retailers.

If you're bringing one across the border for defense against wildlife, probably completely fine as long as you don't have the pepperballs, just the kinetic projectiles.

The pepperballs themselves would likely be prohibited, but based on what I'm seeing, this is not a firearm, so it's good to go.
 
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Question: anyone know the stance on crossing the border with the non lethal Byrna Launches? Kind of like the bear bangers but with a kinetic thump!! I am willing to bet the CS and pepper pellets are no-gos, but plastic pellets…unsure?
Nope CDN LE only in Canada - no one else
Found this: Byrna Canada | The Best Home & Self Defense Products

Seems to suggest they are somehow considered legal, but I am quite skeptical of that. Would have to do more research.

EDIT: A quick search shows me they are not classed as a firearm in Canada and can be bought here from a couple retailers.

If you're bringing one across the border for defense against wildlife, probably completely fine as long as you don't have the pepperballs, just the kinetic projectiles.

The pepperballs themselves would likely be prohibited, but based on what I'm seeing, this is not a firearm, so it's good to go.
Good info. I also found this. Still no concrete info on the chemicals but I would agree not worth trying! I am sure you would have to have your ducks in a row to convince a border CMP who is unaware. Anyways, thank you!
 

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They don't tend to tear a car apart for nothing or separate people, out of curiosity you mentioned having items seized care to elaborate. As to your dog that is for your dog's safety, caged and muzzled the dog is not a threat.

I do however suspect the current political tensions have a lot to do with it, too many illegal border crossings from the US to Canada in the last few years. The border services are very concerned about people crossing and then claiming asylum and we don't have the capacity.

Nonetheless, it is a bad way to start a trip and you may face a wee bit of anger directed at you, it is not right but calling us the 51st state and calling our head of government a governor thing has people really pissed off up here.
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@CR-Venturer @highboy4x4 Yea Bryna is playing pretty quick and loose with the rules. It is velocity and impact energy, not one or the other, but like all firearms regulation is Canada is a nightmare to figure out, ask any airsoft guy. As the stated purpose is self defense that would make it pretty dodgy to get across the border, I would not suggest trying to do so.

The standard line police constable has little idea about firearms law, border agents even less so.

However is strictly legal sense it is allowed to owned and they are sold in Canada, you just can not use it for self defense. And it would have to be i the case.

To give you an idea I have a short shotgun, I use for wildlife defense, I have load it each time I get out of the truck with it and unload before I head out in the truck Unless I am on an FSR I trigger lock it, breach open, it makes any police interactions simpler as I am well within the transport rules. On the FSR just breach open.
In BC I can have it loaded, breech empty on foot any time of year. Some provinces prohibit that
 
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for you info , its not worth the trouble to bring it , your not in the US .....(canada is not that scary lol ) it can be entered but since its a ``category of weapon`` you will need a form here =
Non-restricted firearms
If you are importing non-restricted firearms and you hold a valid Canadian firearms licence, you will need to show the licence to a border services officer.

If you do not hold a valid Canadian firearms licence, you must:

Once confirmed by a border services officer, the declaration has the same effect as a temporary licence for the firearms for up to 60 days.


Visitors to Canada
To import firearms into Canada you must have a valid purpose. Valid purposes can include (but are not limited to) the following:

  • hunting during hunting season (limited to non-restricted firearms only)
  • use in competitions
  • repair
  • in transit movement, i.e., moving in the most direct route possible from point A to point B, through Canada
  • protection against wildlife in remote areas (limited to non-restricted firearms only)




`` there is a lot of restricted weapon ; that can not be pass the border and you can even get arrested (assisted knives , gravity knifes , us bear spray because of stronger chemicals in it , butterfly knifes , brass knuckles and a lot of those types) ``


if you bring a pet into canada here a link =

Bringing animals to Canada: Importing and travelling with pets - inspection.canada.ca





As for the bryna here is a faq =

Is the Byrna legal in Canada?

Yes. The Byrna may be imported into Canada and may be purchased by Canadian citizens and residents.

Is the Byrna considered a firearm in Canada?

Yes. The Byrna launchers are considered firearms under the Canadian Criminal Code, however, they are EXEMPT from licensing requirements because the Byrna has a firing velocity below 500 ft/sec (150 meters/sec).

Is the Byrna considered a prohibited weapon or a replica firearm in Canada?

No. Because the Byrna launchers are “exempt” firearms, they are not considered a “prohibited weapon” or a “replica firearm” and not subject to the restrictions on prohibited weapons and replica firearms.

Can I carry the Byrna in a concealed manner when outside of my home?

No. Byrna launchers are for home defense and may not be carried in a concealed manner out in public. Further, Byrna launchers may not be used against a person except in self-defense. Certain Municipalities have additional restrictions one where and when a device such as the Byrna may be carried by a consumer.

Can the Byrna be used for self-defense?

While the Byrna is legal in Canada, it should only be used for lawful purposes, including training and legitimate instances of self-defense. Like any other weapon, be it a hammer, knife or baseball bat, the Byrna should never be brandished or used in a threatening manner, except as necessary in the defense of oneself or others.

Can I buy chemical irritant rounds for use with the Byrna?

No. Chemical irritant rounds (Byrna Pepper and Byrna Max) are banned “prohibited weapons” and as such are not offered in Canada. There is no prohibition regarding the importation or sales of Byrna Kinetic, Byrna Eco-kinetic or Byrna Training Rounds.




hope this info help anyone , ..................
 
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Fascinating, good points. Especially about the political climate. I wish I had better news about "that guy" at our helm, but as an American, I am embarrassed. Thank you for being honest on this post, near Banff, still pushing through.
Maybe you could just stay up there for a while.
 
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@CR-Venturer @highboy4x4 Yea Bryna is playing pretty quick and loose with the rules. It is velocity and impact energy, not one or the other, but like all firearms regulation is Canada is a nightmare to figure out, ask any airsoft guy. As the stated purpose is self defense that would make it pretty dodgy to get across the border, I would not suggest trying to do so.

The standard line police constable has little idea about firearms law, border agents even less so.

However is strictly legal sense it is allowed to owned and they are sold in Canada, you just can not use it for self defense. And it would have to be i the case.

To give you an idea I have a short shotgun, I use for wildlife defense, I have load it each time I get out of the truck with it and unload before I head out in the truck Unless I am on an FSR I trigger lock it, breach open, it makes any police interactions simpler as I am well within the transport rules. On the FSR just breach open.
In BC I can have it loaded, breech empty on foot any time of year. Some provinces prohibit that
At least in BC the Border officers probably know more about the rules than the police do, since firearms and non-firearms come across the border fairly regularly.

Always declare the stuff you bring across and you won't have an issue. Even if something like that isn't allowed in, as long as it's declared, they'll let you take it back to the USA and drop it off. Several of the ports in the LMD have places right on the US side that will rent a storage locker for guns and such if they get turned back.

Spent the first 41 years of my life in BC, now live in Alberta.
 
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