The Outback Swag can be used on a cot or on the ground. It has a mattress in it. I have laid in it in the house but have not used it in the wild yet.
WAIT WAIT WAIT. You think ground pounding will be more comfortable than the hammock??? Let us know what you think, but cool tent for car camping. But....
20lbs for a 1 man bivy tent, even with a UL bag that thing is a dam brick. So be it canvas is heavy duty, but the non freestanding tube shaped nature of it means when it gets loaded with snow, it will compress and likely collapse on to you.
7ft, by 3ft, by 2.5ft dimensions. And still 20lbs! I cant get over this. And that does not included sleeping bag....
My Kifaru 8 man Tipi, large stove, Exped Downmat 9, And Kifaru 0* regulator bag (with stuff sack) weighs in at 20.3lbs. I have used this setup to below 0 with no worries. Best part, the tipi is 18ft by 15ft, by 8.5ft. I have had 3 full grown guys, all our gear, a big pile of wood for the stove and still had room to shower in it I have used it for weeks at a time. I would take this cold weather palace of awesome over a bivy or similar weight any day of the week. More so that I have had 6inches of snow fall overnight and the thing did not give a flying rats rear.
Here are some photos of that setup. And I will say it after spending $1800 on this setup. Yes, sleeping in a hammock is more comfortable.
https://flic.kr/p/az5wtP
https://flic.kr/p/az5wyV
https://flic.kr/p/az8anA
Hope these work. Im using my old flickr account.
WAIT WAIT WAIT. You think ground pounding will be more comfortable than the hammock??? Let us know what you think, but cool tent for car camping. But....
20lbs for a 1 man bivy tent, even with a UL bag that thing is a dam brick. So be it canvas is heavy duty, but the non freestanding tube shaped nature of it means when it gets loaded with snow, it will compress and likely collapse on to you.
7ft, by 3ft, by 2.5ft dimensions. And still 20lbs! I cant get over this. And that does not included sleeping bag....
My Kifaru 8 man Tipi, large stove, Exped Downmat 9, And Kifaru 0* regulator bag (with stuff sack) weighs in at 20.3lbs. I have used this setup to below 0 with no worries. Best part, the tipi is 18ft by 15ft, by 8.5ft. I have had 3 full grown guys, all our gear, a big pile of wood for the stove and still had room to shower in it I have used it for weeks at a time. I would take this cold weather palace of awesome over a bivy or similar weight any day of the week. More so that I have had 6inches of snow fall overnight and the thing did not give a flying rats rear.
Here are some photos of that setup. And I will say it after spending $1800 on this setup. Yes, sleeping in a hammock is more comfortable.
https://flic.kr/p/az5wtP
https://flic.kr/p/az5wyV
https://flic.kr/p/az8anA
Hope these work. Im using my old flickr account.
Off-Road Ranger I
What system is that? It looks great!View attachment 15578 View attachment 15576 View attachment 15576 I Love my hammock system, its lightweight, compact, and basically a recliner you can take anywhere! you definitely need a sleeping pad underneath you if you dont want to freeze, hammocks are breathable and all insulation qualities of your sleeping bag are compromised underneath you when you lay on it.
Its a Grand Trunk Hammock with Grand Trunk straps, and a cheapo tarp i got from Dicks! the trick is just learning how to hang everything. if your'e thinking of getting a hammock, GET GRAND TRUNK STRAPS! The ENO straps are vastly inferior to the Grand Trunk ones. The Grand Trunk straps have 2x the attachment points and that makes a huge difference!What system is that? It looks great!
Influencer II
Influencer II
Its an 8'x10'. Its really nice to have the room in bad weather. This was in pisgah 5 day fly fishing trip in august on lost cove creek. Thunderstorms every evening. It makes a really nice tent if I camp on a bald.Whoah, that tarp is gigantic! i could use that much space over my hammock!
Off-Road Ranger I
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Why did I not see this earlier??? Prior to owning the X, my outdoor adventures were via my feet packing the crap in. Over the last 20 years I changed ALOT of my kit out, but for the last 8 years, one thing has stayed. The hammock. I started simple enough a Hennessy hammock. But after the first few uses I found anything below 70 sucks in it. So I went with insulation. Jacks r better, 30* top and under quilt. Great setup for 7 of the 12 months here. In the winter however I would always hunker down in a Kifaru shelter with stove and regulator bags. That is until I found hammock forums and yes, shug. That dude is nuts. Plain and simple.
Anyways, I ended up getting my first winter insulation and tarp. The insulation was a -10F Hammock gear top and bottom quilt, and the tarp a warbonnet superfly. Still using the hennessy hammock, but I had it modified by 2QZQ with a removable bug net, peak bag, and a few other things. Worked great, but I wanted to upgrade the hammock, which warbonnet hooked me up with a XLC dual layer. It has since been modified with whoopie slings and dutch hardware. I also added dutch gear to the insulation and tarp. Took 8 years, 5 different tarps, 2 hammocks, a dozen different setups, but I found what works for me and what I like. My daughter now uses the 2qzq modded hennesy and one of my warbonnet tarps with the JRB insulation as her setup. So its still seeing use. but she is limited to about 40 in it.
A few things, get a nice beenie, ever with nice insulation your head will get cold. Practice getting situation. As dumb as this sounds, nothing destroys a good night sleep like having to tweak your setup when the sun is down. Learn to do it 2nd nature and great, amazing sleep will follow. I sleep better in a hammock than I did at home so for about a year when the girl left me I actually mounted points in the bedroom to hang the hammock. they are still there and Ive used them a few time even after she came back....
Hope your trip goes well and please give a trip report, but here are some of my hammock photos to give ideas.
My go to showing the amazing hammock gear insulation on a solo hike to desolation lake. I was the only fool out there, temps were just around 0.
The hennessy with warbonnet extras.
The old setup... still great however.
Influencer II
Traveler III
I had a whoopee sling, and it didn't seem to work with getting the right hang for my old back. I'm going to have to try again. Maybe it is just the cut of the hammock.I also upgraded my ridgeline with Dutchware's ridgeline kit
The recommended length for your ridge line is 83% the length of your hammock. I haven't had to play around with adjusting, and have found the whoopies for a ridge line to be overkill. A good cord that doesn't stretch should do you. I use 300lb spectre fishing line. Light and strong.I had a whoopee sling, and it didn't seem to work with getting the right hang for my old back. I'm going to have to try again. Maybe it is just the cut of the hammock.
Traveler III
Thanks! I need to spend more time trial and erring the adjustments. I've watched several videos, and read through a lot of the posts on Hammock Forums. I just have a light double recreation hammock from JB's Outdoor Supply. Maybe it is the cut, or that it is made as a double, but I can't avoid getting really tight material right in the center and floppy edges. Laying diagonal, I'm more arched up in the middle than feet and head up.Good luck.