GAS prices

[MOAK]

West coast prices suck, no doubt. Because of that, we will not be traveling any further west than south central Utah on our next trip. Canada's prices are higher than ours, but from one gas station to the next the price is the same. Strictly regulated. Back during Hurricane Katrina, 2005, we were up in Quebec camping in the woods for a week, came into town to fuel up and get supplies and the price had jumped from 99 c litre to nearly 1.59 litre. We took a very direct route back to Maine, only to cross the border and find that the Exxon was up to 4.59 gal. Then in 2008 price for gas spiked at 4.11 nationwide. The spikes suck, plain and simple, This year we are doing an out and back to southern Utah, then wiggle our way home through New Mexico. As I've stated before it is still costing us about $500 more than if the price was around $3.50 a gallon.

But to back out of politics I am finding myself walking more to places I would of typically driven. I recently had my Overland rig/DD out of service in my driveway while waiting for a part. I walked the 2 miles to the shopping center I needed to go to for groceries (beer). I plan on just walking more to do things I normally would drive to do. I 100% realize this option does not work for everyone in every circumstance but it does for me and thats my solution. Save my fuel for when i actually need it.

Interestingly enough, the oil companies know that our populace will be curbing their driving habits and lowering demand. There will be a glut and the price at the pump will go way back down, as it always has. I'm a firm believer in strict price regulations for commodities. Enough of the huge fluctuations that consumers endure in the name of free market gouging, that goes hand in hand with multi billionaires reaping in more multi billions in profits. Enough, I'm done with this subject, it's impossible to convince some people that it is not a political issue, never has been. It is a business issue.

 

[bgenlvtex]

Gas things setting all time record highs:
Gasoline prices
Gaslighting

 

[bgenlvtex]

Riddle me this.
Russian invasion started 2 weeks ago, gas embargo this week, it takes months to get barrels of crude tom refineries yet prices went up instantly.

Gotta love capitalisim.

Oil and gas is traded in futures, prices will fluctuate without a drop ever changing hands. This is how they ended up in a negative squeeze, futures were bought and then because there was more oil inventory than there was a place to deliver it to the prices went negative, basically you were very briefly being paid to take it.

Because of taxes depending on the State you live in even if they were giving fuel away, you would be paying somewhere between .50 cents and $2.50 a gallon for it just in taxes. Has anyone heard anything about the government lifting taxes to soften the impact? Of course not.

Additionally much of the "oil" bought from Russia is finished fuels, not crude Russia provides(ed) 21% of the finished fuel products we imported 12.78 Billion dollars worth in 2021

 

[bgenlvtex]

I know how it works but “should” that be how it works. Does literally everything have to be about money and Wall Street?

Im in Florida. Our illustrious Governor is removing state taxes but not till October. You know just before the November elections. Until then F’ck you peasant’s.

Fuel was up 60% in the year preceding the Ukraine fiasco (which was funded in part by American oil imports), considerably more than it has gone up since.

I think your angst is misdirected, your Governor didn't do that.

Should it be that way? I suppose that is going to be an opinion and as such only relevant to the individual.

 

[MidOH]

I'll take Desantis if you're done with him.

 

[grubworm]

pfizer made over 81 BILLION last year



now its the petroleum industry's turn to get the other half of us....

 

[WTSMatt]

So complex that it was fine a few years ago.

And lumber.
And milk.
And tires.
And electrical tape!
And meat.
And airlines weren't controlled by nazi's.
And healthca............OK, not that one. It was ruined in 2011.

Your posts always leave me slack jawed. There is never constructive dialogue. I do not know why I bother. Last thread of similar nature you commented that your reply to my post about California and small engines was meant to be insulting. Why? Once again, your commentary makes me want to shut this forum off. No more for me on this thread even though there were some good responses and thoughts.

 

[MidOH]

Smoke more weed cali. Itll make you feel better. Its half price in miami.

Lots of libs in this forum. Great job on making the world worse for the rest of us. Keep it up. This year has been great.


[Let's shoot for $15 per gallon and another lockdown. Maybe require an echoecardiogram to prove that you have a damaged circulatory system, before being allowed to fly anywhere.

Let's shutdown some pipelines. Sic the EPA on some honest corporations trying to expand. Maybe visit a school and teach kindergarderners about overlanding and sex ed.

Lockdown every state to prevent the common cold, except for New York, they get to travel anywhere.

Beat oil workers with a garden hose. Pass out free crack pipes. Pay hospitals $58k a piece to kill people. And burn down portland again.

Lets support (collude with?) politicians that believe in trail access and that wont start WW3.

Dont forget to wear your vax and take your mask when the balloon goes up. And dont burn the Joshua trees.]