Full size rigs! who's got em?

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The important thing is to make sure when you load you do not remove too much weight from the front. This is why a truck has a rake to it...and why I do not like level kits.
I'll agree with you here. I love my truck looking leveled, but it really needs an add a leaf or leveling airbags with too much weight in the rear.
 
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I did a 'Add A Leaf' to my rig cause after the lift the back had like a one inch drop. The Add a Leaf help and couldn't believe the shop only charged my like $110 to slap it on, including labor.
 
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GVWR is the max weight at which your brakes, steering and suspension are rated to perform.

Payload is the suggested number for stuff you can add to, load in...including passengers.

Curb weight is your empty vehicle with full fluids...so a full tank of gas.

To easily find your curb weight...take you GVWR minus your payload.

Using the door stickers if your vehicle ia new enough

For instance my HeftyDuty has a GVWR of 10000lbs. A payload of 2998

So my curb weight is 7002 lbs.

There so a bit of capacity over GVWR...check your axle ratings...mine is 5500 front and 6000 rear. But you also must remember some of that capacity is for inertia...weight transfers to the rear when pulling out and to the front when stopping.

The important thing is to make sure when you load you do not remove too much weight from the front. This is why a truck has a rake to it...and why I do not like level kits.
I am assuming with all of the armor on y Jeep that once I load tools, spares, food and gear I am likely over the GVWR. It does have upgraded brakes ( big brake kit designed for a JK since I have JK axles.... ish) so it stops well, the only issues I run into all of the time with the Jeep is that its underpowered for the weight, and its lacking in cargo space. also because its underpowered and heavy it sucks back fuel faster than you would believe, which then causes me to carry fuel with me... which adds to the weight .... and takes up storage space lol
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GVWR is the max weight at which your brakes, steering and suspension are rated to perform.

Payload is the suggested number for stuff you can add to, load in...including passengers.

Curb weight is your empty vehicle with full fluids...so a full tank of gas.

To easily find your curb weight...take you GVWR minus your payload.

Using the door stickers if your vehicle ia new enough

For instance my HeftyDuty has a GVWR of 10000lbs. A payload of 2998

So my curb weight is 7002 lbs.

There so a bit of capacity over GVWR...check your axle ratings...mine is 5500 front and 6000 rear. But you also must remember some of that capacity is for inertia...weight transfers to the rear when pulling out and to the front when stopping.

The important thing is to make sure when you load you do not remove too much weight from the front. This is why a truck has a rake to it...and why I do not like level kits.
Leveling kits are for cars with pans. Or BroDozers with 15" wide deep dish wheel crap on it!
 
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I love the full size life. Super comfy while driving with plenty of room even with 4 people. Not only that but fully loaded I’m still within gvwr(if it’s just the wife, myself, and dog).
Ya I never really though about gvwr. I really should weigh my the lol. It's probly close when empty lol.
I built a whole excel sheet to get a rough estimate what the weight is. I also had to factor that I am way heavier than the driver weight Ford used in their calculation.

Very curious on how my math would compare to actual when I go weigh.
 
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I built a whole excel sheet to get a rough estimate what the weight is. I also had to factor that I am way heavier than the driver weight Ford used in their calculation.

Very curious on how my math would compare to actual when I go weigh.
Unless ford is doing something different...there is no driver weight in the payload calculation.

The driver weight comes into play when figuring max towing. They allow 150lbs for driver and 150lbs for passenger...i weigh 295...ao my passenger is a big gulp soda.
 

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I built a whole excel sheet to get a rough estimate what the weight is. I also had to factor that I am way heavier than the driver weight Ford used in their calculation.

Very curious on how my math would compare to actual when I go weigh.
Unless ford is doing something different...there is no driver weight in the payload calculation.

The driver weight comes into play when figuring max towing. They allow 150lbs for driver and 150lbs for passenger...i weigh 295...ao my passenger is a big gulp soda.
Yea for payload they do a 150lb driver and no passenger with a full tank of gas. My fat butt is 240 so had to add the difference haha
 

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Hey Full size peeps! who's got what? what would you change and what do you love? I may be looking at building a full size rig down the road but likely not for at least a year of 2. That said it will likely end up much like my Jeep and be able to tackle a moderate to difficult trail ( middle of the road type deal but rocks and water crossings) to get to where I want to go camping. I have been leaning towards older Tahoes or Suburbans, even Explorers. maybe a Cherokee or 4 runner would be big enough but I have a thing for older Blazers/Tahoes as I went through some tough times with one in the past and miss it.
Show me what you got!
I drive a full size Bronco (similar in size to the K-5 Blazer). I got it to replace my Jeep. It does everything a Jeep can, but better. I can haul more and be way more comfortable than the 2006 TJ I had ever could.
 

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1996 Second Gen Dodge Ram 1500 4x4. Short wheel base, standard cab. 5.2/auto. Think of it as a Jeep Comanche on steroids. 2" lift front and rear, Dana 44 front, Chrysler
9.25 rear, 4.10 gears, 285/75/16" tires, true-tracks front and rear. These trucks can be found cheap. Adequate power, plenty comfortable, and with a fiberglass topper on the bed, you can put a whole lot of stuff back there. Just came back from a short overlanding trip with it.

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