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BeardedOverland

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Don’t be like these guys. This story is true… you couldn’t make this up.

LOST ATV RIDERS: NEAR SECRET PASS CANYON, WEST SIDE OF THE BLACK MOUNTAINS

On Sunday afternoon (10/9), the Mohave County Sheriff’s Office received several phone calls from parties related to three ATV riders (a 57-year-old male, a 51-year-old male and a 50-year-old male) who were just not home yet. They had been traveling through Secret Pass Canyon from Golden Valley and heading towards the Bullhead City side of the Black Mountains. They had indicated at one point the trail had a waterfall on it and they were trying to figure out how to get past it in their quads. Eventually, they made it to the Bullhead side of the Black Mountains, but somehow became lost. They could see the casinos on the other side of the Colorado River, but had no idea how to get to a roadway. They had left an established and marked trail that would have led them to Silver Creek Road and chose to drive several miles down a trail past a sign that clearly indicated it was a “Dead End” and managed to get cliffed out by surrounding canyons and washes. They were out of water, food and had no other supplies with them and called 911 for help. Search and Rescue responded and began a route and location search. After determining they had left the marked trail, search teams made their way to them – located just below Secret Pass Canyon, near the Narrows. While they were rehydrated, they were physically unable to drive their quads back to the Command Post. At that point, the quads were left behind and they were transported back to the Command Post, where they were reunited with their family. They were encouraged to reach out to a local four-wheeling group for assistance to remove their quads from the remote desert area.

But wait, there’s more! The next day (Monday – 10/10), instead of reaching out for help to attempt to locate and recover their quads, four males went back out by themselves in a Dodge Dakota truck. They managed to shred two tires and become lost again. One male managed to walk out to the Maverick gas station on the Bullhead Parkway, two males walked back out to Silver Creek Road and one remained with the truck. None of them knew where the truck was actually located, but the male remaining with the truck called 911 about 7pm that evening. The location that came with the 911 call had a 6,000 meter accuracy, which is poor and equates to just under a 4 mile radius from where he called – which becomes looking for a needle in a haystack from the ground in the dark. The DPS Western Air Rescue helicopter from Kingman located the stranded truck, landed and brought the male back to the Command Post – where he was reunited with his family.

While recreating in the remote desert wilderness areas of Mohave County, Search and Rescue wants to remind everyone to plan ahead and be prepared for their adventures. Bring plenty of water and other supplies. When traveling, have multiple vehicles for when one of them breaks down so there are other options available. If you are attempting to navigate to a location, bring a map and know how to use the tools you have to get you there. It is often misunderstood that when recreating, cell phones will have cell service all the time and apps (such as Google Earth) will continue to work when there is no cell service. Be safe out there!
 

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Pretzel

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Don't those rescues come with a bill? I imagine they are going to pay the price for being stupid!
I can answer this, I'm an expert because I watched part of a TV show one time... I was watching a show that seemed like "Cops" but for Game Wardens in New Hampshire and they were assisting a rescue of stranded skiers that went out of bounds.
The narrator emphasized if the hikers were found to be negligent, or deliberately went out of bounds they would be liable for the cost of the rescue.
I guess it also depends on who's involved in the rescue.

Any professionals here to weigh in? Or anyone willing to admit being rescued?
 

OTH Overland

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I spent many years in SAR, including ground searches, high angle, swift water and 4x4 recovery. In our part of the country there was no charge and the bulk of the work was by volunteers. The majority of people lost or injured I was involved with were from lack of some essential - i.e. skills, proper equipment, planning, or basic common sense. very few were true accidents / unpreventable. Some places in the US have provisions for charging for SAR services, I believe New Hampshire, Maine, Hawaii & Oregon can charge if they believe negligence played a part, Colorado and Vermont can charge if you are in out of bounds ski area or if you hike in areas closed to the public. Always good to check with the places you are going in advance if you are concerned especially if out of the country. There are a few SAR insurance policies that can be purchased. (Through Garmin and other Sat device providers). I believe Colorado has a SAR rescue card ($3 per year?) that will prevent you from being charged. In the case of overlanders, we are typically close to our vehicles, which are well stocked and provide shelter, os as long as the situation does not relate to a serious accident, medical issue, or injury time is not as much of a factor as inconvenience is. Good comms (HAM,GMRS, or Sat device) should allow for a 'phone a friend' option to bring you parts, or a tow/recovery without tapping into SAR. Keep in mind that SAR is there to get you out of trouble, not your vehicle. Recovery / removal of your vehicle is left to you or the private tow services for which you definitely will be billed unless you happen to be in one of the few states that has a volunteer vehicle recovery team (Colorado & Montana both have a 4x4 Rescue service that does not charge as far as I know and are well trained in Recovery) Washington has a facebook group of wheelers that will come and get you, which may or may not have training / experience.
 

smritte

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In this case, I want to say something like "cant fix stupid" but that would be mean and not very politically correct. I'm just going to sit here, shake my head and not say anything.

At least the report wasn't "ATV riders found dead of dehydration".
 

shansonpac

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In this case, I want to say something like "cant fix stupid" but that would be mean and not very politically correct. I'm just going to sit here, shake my head and not say anything.

At least the report wasn't "ATV riders found dead of dehydration".
They came very close to qualifying for a "Darwin" Award. If most overlanders are like me, I have enough water, food, energy and booze to sit it out for an extended period, barring any medical emergency.
 

Viking1204

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They came very close to qualifying for a "Darwin" Award. If most overlanders are like me, I have enough water, food, energy and booze to sit it out for an extended period, barring any medical emergency.
Same here, I usually come home with plenty of food and water, even beer sometimes LOL!
 
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bgenlvtex

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Don't those rescues come with a bill? I imagine they are going to pay the price for being stupid!
Not defending the dumb asses, but if you catch your house on fire frying a turkey do you get a bill from the Fire Department?

Public Services are paid for with tax dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment and facilities and staff wages.
 
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