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Those 3rd Gen Tacos are still on my list for my next rig. I have to have a truck, so I'm still watching the TW forums for issues (there's another thread here.....). The prices are just NUTS on them though !
 
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I'm thinking of swapping my GMC 3500 for this bad boy. Pretty amazing capabilities! On the other hand the TRD Off Road 4x4 has almost the same package and I'm likely to swap the suspension anyway... But that TRD Pro badge would look pretty nice next to my OB #1836 emblem!
 

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I don't see much written about the V-6 Gen 3 powerplant. I think it's a Lexus, but I wonder about longevity with the Atkinson engine ?

I mean, will they go 300,000 miles like we're used to with Tacoma's, or are there additional wear/moving parts that will hamper extreme high mileage?
 

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I don't see much written about the V-6 Gen 3 powerplant. I think it's a Lexus, but I wonder about longevity with the Atkinson engine ?

I mean, will they go 300,000 miles like we're used to with Tacoma's, or are there additional wear/moving parts that will hamper extreme high mileage?
Only time will tell.
 
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I'm thinking of swapping my GMC 3500 for this bad boy. Pretty amazing capabilities! On the other hand the TRD Off Road 4x4 has almost the same package and I'm likely to swap the suspension anyway... But that TRD Pro badge would look pretty nice next to my OB #1836 emblem!
I would save the money in dealer markup and go TRD OR, you're going to pay a huge premium for items that you can either build better for cheaper or simply dont need. I'm just about finished with the build on my 2017 TRD OR, paid $500 over invoice and after all the work I'm doing I'll still likely end up under dealer asking price for a Pro with 5x the suspension, better lighting, hidden winch and better wheels and tires, all the bells and whistles and added leather.

The Pro is ideal for someone that wants to drive something off the lot that looks cool, keep it for a few years and trade it in for far less than its worth (stealerships) for something new. My girl friend is an ideal candidate for example: She wants a Pro 4Runner-she leases all her vehicles, it will probably never see dirt but she wants something with a small lift and wheels and tires thats all covered under warranty. Even tho I build trucks for a living I would still encourage her to get a pro instead of having me lift and do wheels and tires. Its just easier, and I know what its worth at the end of her lease.
 

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I would save the money in dealer markup and go TRD OR, you're going to pay a huge premium for items that you can either build better for cheaper or simply dont need. I'm just about finished with the build on my 2017 TRD OR, paid $500 over invoice and after all the work I'm doing I'll still likely end up under dealer asking price for a Pro with 5x the suspension, better lighting, hidden winch and better wheels and tires, all the bells and whistles and added leather.

The Pro is ideal for someone that wants to drive something off the lot that looks cool, keep it for a few years and trade it in for far less than its worth (stealerships) for something new. My girl friend is an ideal candidate for example: She wants a Pro 4Runner-she leases all her vehicles, it will probably never see dirt but she wants something with a small lift and wheels and tires thats all covered under warranty. Even tho I build trucks for a living I would still encourage her to get a pro instead of having me lift and do wheels and tires. Its just easier, and I know what its worth at the end of her lease.

Good feedback. Plus you don't have to wait 3-4 months!
 
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I would save the money in dealer markup and go TRD OR, you're going to pay a huge premium for items that you can either build better for cheaper or simply dont need. I'm just about finished with the build on my 2017 TRD OR, paid $500 over invoice and after all the work I'm doing I'll still likely end up under dealer asking price for a Pro with 5x the suspension, better lighting, hidden winch and better wheels and tires, all the bells and whistles and added leather.

The Pro is ideal for someone that wants to drive something off the lot that looks cool, keep it for a few years and trade it in for far less than its worth (stealerships) for something new. My girl friend is an ideal candidate for example: She wants a Pro 4Runner-she leases all her vehicles, it will probably never see dirt but she wants something with a small lift and wheels and tires thats all covered under warranty. Even tho I build trucks for a living I would still encourage her to get a pro instead of having me lift and do wheels and tires. Its just easier, and I know what its worth at the end of her lease.
Also, not sure if this trend continued in the 3rd gens, but in the 2nd gen Tacomas, the TRD Sport actually has a larger rear diff than the TRD OR, albeit with no e-locker. Lots of guys get the Sport for this reason, then add an ARB. Just food for thought.
 
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Also, not sure if this trend continued in the 3rd gens, but in the 2nd gen Tacomas, the TRD Sport actually has a larger rear diff than the TRD OR, albeit with no e-locker. Lots of guys get the Sport for this reason, then add an ARB. Just food for thought.
Yes the 2nd Gen TRD Sports had an 8.4" ring gear and the Off-Roads had an 8". This is why I bought a sport back when I got my 2008, ran an ARB for years without an issue until I swapped in the fully fabricated 9" with a Detroit. To be honest I'm not sure if this trend carried over to the new trucks and I haven't done enough research to comment but they all have the Auto LSD now, no more mechanical like the older 2nd Gens. The new trucks also have a 3.91 gear ratio on the autos and a 4.30 on the manuals which is an improvement from the 3.73s on the 2nd Gens but still not ideal. Even if the ring gear is slightly larger on the sports like they used to be the benefits of all the new electronic gizmos the off-roads have now is enough reason to not get the sport IMHO since all these trucks are going to need a 4.56 regear anyway if you run a good size tire.
 

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I don't see much written about the V-6 Gen 3 powerplant. I think it's a Lexus, but I wonder about longevity with the Atkinson engine ?

I mean, will they go 300,000 miles like we're used to with Tacoma's, or are there additional wear/moving parts that will hamper extreme high mileage?
Lots of feedback over on tacomaworld. Albeit most threads are inquiries about issues/failures, there is some good research and experience with 2016s and their 3.5 power plant.

Unfortunately, Its much like yelp, you're more inclined to post or give a negative review when something goes wrong than to provide a positive post.
 

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Lots of feedback over on tacomaworld. Albeit most threads are inquiries about issues/failures, there is some good research and experience with 2016s and their 3.5 power plant.

Unfortunately, Its much like yelp, you're more inclined to post or give a negative review when something goes wrong than to provide a positive post.
So far I'm happy with the 3.5, my truck only has 800 miles on it but my ladys truck just rolled 15k and is doing well. The 3.5 is a different feel than the 4.0, it lacks a little on the low end but picks up nicely higher in the RPM range where I felt the 4.0 was a little torquier. Time will tell if it holds up like Toyota motors of the past
 

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If it's the Lexus engine, or a variation of it, I would think there would be considerable knowledge and history of it already ? I'm intrigued now and will have to do more research on this powerplant.

I will be a serious prospect for a Gen 3 in the next year or two. It'll be hard to drop from the full size quad cab Ram, but if I don't get another Ram, it very well may be a Taco.

Or a Tundra.....
 

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If it's the Lexus engine, or a variation of it, ...
It is.

2GR-FKS[edit]
The 2GR-FKS combines the D-4S system from the 2GR-FSE with the simulated on-demand Atkinson cycle used in the 2UR-GSE and 8AR-FTS engines. The intake camshafts are equipped with VVT-iW and the exhaust camshafts are equipped with VVT-i. In the Tacoma the engine specifications are 207 kW (278 hp) at 6000 rpm and 359 N·m (265 lb·ft) at 4600 rpm.[9] In the Lexus RX 350 the engine specifications are 220 kW (295 hp) at 6300 rpm and 362 N·m (267 lb·ft) at 4700 rpm respectively. In the Lexus GS350 the engine specifications are 232 kW (311 hp) at 6600 rpm and 380 N·m (280 lb·ft) at 4800 rpm respectively.

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***This is from Wikipedia, but there might be a misprint. The 2015 Tacoma was still running the 1GR-FE that the rest of the second gen Tacoma's had. As far as I know, at least haha!
 

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I would save the money in dealer markup and go TRD OR, you're going to pay a huge premium for items that you can either build better for cheaper or simply dont need. I'm just about finished with the build on my 2017 TRD OR, paid $500 over invoice and after all the work I'm doing I'll still likely end up under dealer asking price for a Pro with 5x the suspension, better lighting, hidden winch and better wheels and tires, all the bells and whistles and added leather.

The Pro is ideal for someone that wants to drive something off the lot that looks cool, keep it for a few years and trade it in for far less than its worth (stealerships) for something new. My girl friend is an ideal candidate for example: She wants a Pro 4Runner-she leases all her vehicles, it will probably never see dirt but she wants something with a small lift and wheels and tires thats all covered under warranty. Even tho I build trucks for a living I would still encourage her to get a pro instead of having me lift and do wheels and tires. Its just easier, and I know what its worth at the end of her lease.
This is where I'm at too, I will lease my wife a nice 4Runner Pro, it has all the look she wants, and honestly, she'll drive it off road 5 times in the period we have it. This is why she wont let me drive it. :smilingimp:
 
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As much as I really like the New tacoma, I just can't swallow the msrp... Over 40k for a midsize truck? Truck prices must have skyrocketed since I bought my 2004 Hahaha.. I paid 33k or the door for a brand new ram 2500 long bed 4x4 with a Cummins.. The Cummins option alone was $7000...
 

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As much as I really like the New tacoma, I just can't swallow the msrp... Over 40k for a midsize truck? Truck prices must have skyrocketed since I bought my 2004 Hahaha.. I paid 33k or the door for a brand new ram 2500 long bed 4x4 with a Cummins.. The Cummins option alone was $7000...
Keep in mind trim levels mean everything. The MSRP on the base model Tacoma is 23K, add in all the TRD options and yes, 40K. Also, keep in mind 2004 was 12 years ago. Price out that Ram today. It's probably a little bit more as well.