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I looked at both with the same concern and came away with the Patron simply because I wanted the dining room area for the odd case of bad weather or If I was up earlier and needed inside table space while my kid/dog was asleep in the other queen. One thing I didn't account for is that once you...

DId you ever do anything this this rig?

Love my Patron!!! I upgraded the axle bearings and brakes and completed some simple liveability upgrades.

Cool stuff! I have the Black Series version of this and have LOVED IT over the years. Congrats!

I have the Patron (it's for sale in San Bernardino, CA with many upgrades, I am upgrading to a larger BS) and the night-to-night can be daunting for 1 person. If you have 2 people, which is typical for a Patron owner, it's not bad at all. There are only 7 poles, that I stored on the siding bed...

one thing to consider is the height odds the track when you do this.

Where are you located? my rack mounts are simply 2” aluminum angles from the hardware store. I used painters tape (blue) to carpet the holes and placed measurements as well to ensure accuracy for height.

There are some things you can do. Bumpers from ARB/WAM/Bluelake Offroad Sliders - Probably custom only Suspension - Check out Z1 off road or NissTec Roof Rack - Thats going to be the hard part, it will be custom and you'll probably have to drill your roof. Locker - TRE has an E-Locker for the...

I've had my Patron for over a year now and it's been amazing!

Hold for Stage 6 - Engine modifications Forced induction or VK56 swap?

Hold for Differentials R230 or not to R230?

STAGE 4: Happy with it... I am happy to report that the build went well. Overall, I have no real complaint other than gas mileage while towing and gear ratios. Both of which will be somewhat cured when addressed appropriately. I hope you enjoyed the write-up. It turned into a technical...

STAGE 3: Beast Mode At this point, I was confident in my build choice and was ready for full send. I needed protection more than anything. Nothing underneath and in front to protect me from impact. Admitting that you like a look and that it may align with a scenario to help fuel an unhealthy...

STAGE 2: WAIT WHAT?! Forced by necessity and exasperated by "Need". After the bear incident, the wife decided that she was keener to sleeping IN verses ON TOP OF. Long story short, we ended up agreeing on a purpose-built camper that would support us off-grid for an extended amount of time...

Hey guys, I thought I had a build thread already set up but I guess not. Overall, it's been a fun build but has presented some unique challenges. From the start, the decision to go with a Pathfinder was an odd one. I had a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and loved it... Until it was...

Awesome rig! Always wanted to build something like this up! Keep it going!

It’s been a while since i was on here but I ended up with a new rig anyway. Valencia, CA

Did you guys have a Rigs and Coffee meet yet? Im in Saugus!