Dealing with other people's nasty

[DangitDad]

I ran across a disappointing mess at a camping/parking site in Pike National Forest this last weekend. I picked up what little I was willing to but I was not equipped to deal with their USED TOILET PAPER!! Just laying there on the ground. What. the. heck. (That's not the word I used then.) There were not any poo piles though. What?

How do y'all deal with that? Or at all? I imagine latex gloves and ziplocs, but is that enough?

 

[K9LTW]

I ran across a disappointing mess at a camping/parking site in Pike National Forest this last weekend. I picked up what little I was willing to but I was not equipped to deal with their USED TOILET PAPER!! Just laying there on the ground. What. the. heck. (That's not the word I used then.) There were not any poo piles though. What?

How do y'all deal with that? Or at all? I imagine latex gloves and ziplocs, but is that enough?

Sadly it's a growing trend...picking up after people. TP does NOT degrade like people think it does, and animals will quickly scatter it. I always have a box or two of nitrile gloves, and, yes, baggies. Whether it's for used TP, general garbage pick-up, food safety, checking the oil, etc., they're great to have on hand. Have some soap and/or sanitizing gel/spray and you'll be fine.

 

[K12]

I have a dog poop scooper that will be used. Luckily I have not encountered that yet.

 

[slomatt]

I carry a set of long tongs for dealing with "white roses". They are clearly marked so they don't get used for anything else.

 

[pluton]

I use a paper towel to grab things like that.

 

[blackntan]

Sadly it's a growing trend...picking up after people. TP does NOT degrade like people think it does, and animals will quickly scatter it. I always have a box or two of nitrile gloves, and, yes, baggies. Whether it's for used TP, general garbage pick-up, food safety, checking the oil, etc., they're great to have on hand. Have some soap and/or sanitizing gel/spray and you'll be fine.

ITS ANIMALS THAT LEAVE IT

 

[RatAssassin]

I ran across a disappointing mess at a camping/parking site in Pike National Forest this last weekend. I picked up what little I was willing to but I was not equipped to deal with their USED TOILET PAPER!! Just laying there on the ground. What. the. heck. (That's not the word I used then.) There were not any poo piles though. What?

How do y'all deal with that? Or at all? I imagine latex gloves and ziplocs, but is that enough?

We have a place near me that was taken over by someone who hauled a busted down old travel trailer to a boon docking site along a lake. 3 sites, and this one was trashed for years. Piles of garbage with saplings growing up out of it. The trailer was half sunk into the ground. I got tired of it and made some calls with a friend of mine.
The Forest Service guy told us that they were aware of it and were watching to make sure the guy wasn't overstaying the 14 day rule.
Now, we had been watching this thing for a few years. The lazy government worker was doing what lazy government workers do. Along with basically insulting us in the process.

We documented all calls and emails. We then took pictures and explained our way up the chain. We also kept on about being blown off on the local level by an apathetic employee that just tried to lazily lie his way out of it.
The day we broke through the ceiling and got someone high up enough and talked with them, they had a dozer, flatbed trailer and dum truck there within 7 days. Regraded off the site and charged the owner of the trailer, who was found serving time already for something else.

I get tired of picking up after others, but I'll do it to keep it all open for us.

 

[JordanWagner]

Same here, agree with you.

 

[genocache]

In the 70's we called TP Nevada's State Flower! Bulldozers are the State Animal!

 

[CR-Venturer]

We have a place near me that was taken over by someone who hauled a busted down old travel trailer to a boon docking site along a lake. 3 sites, and this one was trashed for years. Piles of garbage with saplings growing up out of it. The trailer was half sunk into the ground. I got tired of it and made some calls with a friend of mine.
The Forest Service guy told us that they were aware of it and were watching to make sure the guy wasn't overstaying the 14 day rule.
Now, we had been watching this thing for a few years. The lazy government worker was doing what lazy government workers do. Along with basically insulting us in the process.

We documented all calls and emails. We then took pictures and explained our way up the chain. We also kept on about being blown off on the local level by an apathetic employee that just tried to lazily lie his way out of it.
The day we broke through the ceiling and got someone high up enough and talked with them, they had a dozer, flatbed trailer and dum truck there within 7 days. Regraded off the site and charged the owner of the trailer, who was found serving time already for something else.

I get tired of picking up after others, but I'll do it to keep it all open for us.

Awesome work, brother! Keep it up.

I recently encountered some "white roses" at a little bush camp spot not far from home beside a lake. Fortunately they were very old and weathered, and didn't appear to have been used for No.2, probably No.1 or something else. I picked them up with a stick and put em in the fire. Nothing kills germs like a blazing camp fire :)

I also picked up about ten empty beer/cooler cans at that same spot, scattered everywhere. Very frustrating, but I've come to expect it more or less. Organizations like OB and 4wdABC out of British Columbia are extremely important and helpful in fighting this problem.

I always encourage like minded people to make their voices heard to the powers that be and never to accept them closing things because of a few A-holes. The answer is to educate/punish the A-holes, not punish everyone else who is doing the right thing and working hard to keep things clean and nice. We don't take away everyone else's car because a few dinks drive drunk and kill people, we put the criminals in jail (or at least we're supposed to). We should absolutely not tolerate authorities shutting trails and areas because of a few wrongdoers, and we should make that clear to them in no uncertain terms.

 

[MOAK]

Awesome work, brother! Keep it up.

I recently encountered some "white roses" at a little bush camp spot not far from home beside a lake. Fortunately they were very old and weathered, and didn't appear to have been used for No.2, probably No.1 or something else. I picked them up with a stick and put em in the fire. Nothing kills germs like a blazing camp fire :)

I also picked up about ten empty beer/cooler cans at that same spot, scattered everywhere. Very frustrating, but I've come to expect it more or less. Organizations like OB and 4wdABC out of British Columbia are extremely important and helpful in fighting this problem.

I always encourage like minded people to make their voices heard to the powers that be and never to accept them closing things because of a few A-holes. The answer is to educate/punish the A-holes, not punish everyone else who is doing the right thing and working hard to keep things clean and nice. We don't take away everyone else's car because a few dinks drive drunk and kill people, we put the criminals in jail (or at least we're supposed to). We should absolutely not tolerate authorities shutting trails and areas because of a few wrongdoers, and we should make that clear to them in no uncertain terms.

Agree 100% - people abusing the privilege of access to our public lands ought to be dealt with in the extreme. We as a community have reached a point that we need to begin offering up viable, long term solutions. We all need to have a drivers license to operate on public highways, and following that model require an endorsement for driving in National/State Forests, BLM lands, etc etc. No different than a motorcycle endorsement or all the different CDL endorsements, (HazMat, air brakes, tanker, doubles, etc). Pass an exam, get the endorsement. Screw up? Lose the endorsement along with heavy fines and or jail time, depending on the infraction. It’s a simple solution to what is going to continue to be a problem for all us good guys unless?