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Rubyredfozzy

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When you hit the trail and plan on leaving the site for a hike or a trip down the river what do you do to secure your rig and camp site.

Id like to think out in the middle of the woods nobody would be stealing my equipment, however i have come back to a broken window and a speeding vehicle leaving the site in the past.

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I am also curious to know what people recommend!
I'm quite worried about my RRT getting stolen because we all know they cost an arm and a leg.
I do have a chevy with onstar so if I ever have a break in I am notified directly via cell and satellite connection so I'm not to terribly worried about smashed windows.
 
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IMO not much to fend off a thief\thieves if your gear is left unattended. If they want it bad enough they will manage to get it. I have a trailer with a tonneau cover. Even though the tailgate latch is a hidden latch, nothing a knife can do to slice into it and grab what they need. My Engel 22qt fridg\freez would be accessible but I plan on securing that with a lock. But I also insured my trailer for the actual value of what it cost me building it & the contents in it. So if any thing stolen or the entire trailer stolen its covered. Unfortunately we live in a society that has become unprincipled & immorally disturbed.
 

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IMO not much to fend off a thief\thieves if your gear is left unattended. If they want it bad enough they will manage to get it. I have a trailer with a tonneau cover. Even though the tailgate latch is a hidden latch, nothing a knife can do to slice into it and grab what they need. My Engel 22qt fridg\freez would be accessible but I plan on securing that with a lock. But I also insured my trailer for the actual value of what it cost me building it & the contents in it. So if any thing stolen or the entire trailer stolen its covered. Unfortunately we live in a society that has become unprincipled & immorally disturbed.
Very true. Most gear would be accessable if its out on the rack or something of that nature

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IMO not much to fend off a thief\thieves if your gear is left unattended. If they want it bad enough they will manage to get it. I have a trailer with a tonneau cover. Even though the tailgate latch is a hidden latch, nothing a knife can do to slice into it and grab what they need. My Engel 22qt fridg\freez would be accessible but I plan on securing that with a lock. But I also insured my trailer for the actual value of what it cost me building it & the contents in it. So if any thing stolen or the entire trailer stolen its covered. Unfortunately we live in a society that has become unprincipled & immorally disturbed.
Very true. They can get to most equipment. Especially if its outside the cab.

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When you hit the trail and plan on leaving the site for a hike or a trip down the river what do you do to secure your rig and camp site.

Id like to think out in the middle of the woods nobody would be stealing my equipment, however i have come back to a broken window and a speeding vehicle leaving the site in the past.

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I noticed you have a roof basket (as do I).
One option for us would be a cable alarm. I have been thinking of that option for a while. That way if someone is messing around with your stuff and the cable is bumped a loud alarm goes off. Then in hopes you hear it and/or it scares the thief.
 
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I noticed you have a roof basket (as do I).
One option for us would be a cable alarm. I have been thinking of that option for a while. That way if someone is messing around with your stuff and the cable is bumped a loud alarm goes off. Then in hopes you hear it and/or it scares the thief.
Ya i was at least thinking about a cable lock. I didnt know there was an alarm as well. Good info.

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Some friends and I went on a trip last November to Uwharrie Nat'l Forest in NC. We've been there many times over the last decade and always camped at the Hunt Camp off 109 near the Outpost. As usual, we just left our gear sitting out on the picnic tables and hit the trails. The first morning there my buddy busted a rear shaft on his truggy and we had to go parts hunting. The other guys we were there with hit the trail while we combed the countryside for 9" Ford shafts.

We all got back about lunchtime and someone had made off with my cooler. Now it wasn't an expensive cooler by any means, just a $40 Wal-Mart job. But it was the cooler my wife and I bought on our first camping trip together and had been on many trips with us over the years. It also had our food for the weekend in it. Whoever got it was just after the beer I think as Uwharrie is in a dry county. They left several hundred dollars of Coleman stoves and lanterns, a nicer cooler a friend had, and all our other gear there.

I'd have gladly shared my beer and steak with them if they'd only stopped and asked. I don't think I've ever wandered into someone's camp and not been graciously offered food and drink. But that was just low. Luckily, one of the other guys had beer and food to spare and we managed to make due for the night and just ate breakfast at the Outpost the next day.

Thanks to that, I now have a 1/2" coated cable with swaged ends and some big combination locks to secure things around camp. The cooler gets locked through table legs or to a tree. Everything else gets stowed in the truck or a lockable tote that's locked up with the cooler. Like stated above though, if someone wants it bad enough they'll still get it. Things like this just help keep honest people honest.
 
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Thank you for the story.

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Sorry... :laughing: This is still a sore spot with me. I really wish we didn't have to worry about security. I use the cable a lot though. It was run through my receiver's safety chain loops and was locked to the cooler and large tote full of gear on my hitch carrier last summer when we went to DC and OBX. I have in the past simply put a lock on the tent zippers as well. Again, just to keep honest people honest.

Hiding gear and not advertising what you have is another good way. If we aren't in a group, we'll stash stuff under sleeping bags in the tent and try to keep everything packed up as much as possible to people can't ride by and just see what we have. The less it looks like you have, the less of a target you look like for the more serious thief.
 

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I've been lucky and never had any thing of mine "adopted" by someone else. But like stated above I always do my best to keep things put away and make it look like there's of value to be had. I always tend to open carry when I see sketchy on lookers who seem to be staring a little too much so maybe that helps too.
Personally I feel like your stuff is more likely to be stolen out of your vehicle when your at the store or gas station on the way to your destination. Again always make good use of locks and chains/cables to secure it all.

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I'm just back from a 16 week, 12,500 mile trip in my van hauling an off-road trailer, with extended camp stays in various types of places. I have a ton of stuff that people might want to have.

Over four months of using the same gear in a bunch of different ways and in different settings, things naturally developed into a routine of sorts as far as buttoning down camp before going for a long bike ride or running into town for supplies. I didn't have a single problem with anything going missing, whether base-camping, on back roads, in truck stops, rest areas, hotel lots for the night, or parked in big cities. Oh, other than a removable tail-light on my bike, and I'm not sure if that was taken or fell off.

That I had nothing go missing in sixteen weeks doesn't mean I think I'm safe anywhere now. It means that what I've been doing to be aware of my surroundings and keeping an eye on my gear is working. I keep thinking of other ways to make everything even easier and more secure.

If I'm heading out from camp and my van is staying on-site, it usually feels like its simple presence deters potential trespassers, as anyone walking by doesn't know if I'm inside the van or not. Same with some ground tent set-ups. If I'm walking or riding away as some stranger is going by--especially when in busier areas--I sometimes yell back "Hey, going down to the store, be right back!" even though there is no one in the van or tent. Gives the illusion someone is on-site. Or "Killer, watch the site, boy!" works, too. This is especially good when in the city and parking.

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If I'm taking the van off-site I tidy up and secure things a bit more before I go, even if only intending to be away for a short while, as anyone who has seen my van in camp and now sees me drive away knows they can zip over there real quick and grab whatever before I get back. So, I don't make it easy for them to grab it.

I straighten up camp and don't leave items laying about like camp and kitchen tools or clothing. My fridge/freezer is always in the back of my van, and the van is typically locked up if I'm away for more than a few minutes, so I don't have to worry much about the fridge or van being messed with. It's a quick easy sweep of camp, too, to put things away into the back of my van or trailer and lock things up, or into the ground tent and zip it up. I tend to store things in the same place so it's usually easy and quick to tidy up before leaving and get things out again when I return.

As for the trailer, it has a Max Coupler hitch which makes it more difficult to just hook up and go, and I keep Bolt 5/8" Receiver Locks (keyed to my ignition key) in both the trailer end and the van end of the hitch at all times, whether the trailer is hooked to the van or not. That further deters would-be trailer thieves. I hate having a mess of extra keys that I need to use daily, so absolutely love these receiver locks, keyed to accept my ignition key. The trailer, when in camping mode, usually has a big-assed awning deployed as well as a roof-top tent popped up and a galley table installed onto the side, so not exactly quick to haul off if someone is trying to be quick.

The tonneau cover on the trailer is a hard-rolling cover and made of titanium. No one is going to simply slash it with a knife to gain access to cargo. It locks nicely into place when the tailgate is up.

To secure the tailgate, I have a simple CURT Coupler Lock securing the right latch hasp. When in place, it's pretty damned difficult to get anything in there to cut the bolt. I further secure the tailgate with the swing-arm tire carrier, which sort of hides the right latch and is secured by a bolt and cotter pin. I'm thinking about drilling the cotter pin hole larger to accept another CURT Coupler Lock, keyed the same as the other, to even make tailgate opening even more tedious to a thief.

The coupler locks are quick and easy to use. Straightening up camp is generally easy and quick, too. Anything that takes too much time to do or undo, or to stash away or get back out again, is likely not to be done as often, tempting would-be thieves even more.

I've found that not leaving stuff laying around----whether in camp or not--and having a well-kept site that says "this guy's got his shit together" is also a psychological deterrent. If in an area with a ton of strangers walking around, like private campgrounds or some state parks, keep stuff put away, don't let everyone know you have that nice ax or chainsaw, that fancy cooler, or expensive camera. That's just the temptation some people need to come back when they know you're away.

Temptation is what I want to minimize, if not eliminate.

I keep both my van and trailer pretty low-key as far as general appearance and tend not to hang what I call "overland bling" (hi-lift jacks, maxtrax, etc) all over them. That too, being less-obvious as owning a bunch of desired overland bling, makes your site less tempting.

Lastly, if I have visitors in camp or to my rig I think might be casing the place for a later visit, I'll let slip "Yeah, the last guy that messed with my stuff would've been twenty-eight next month. . ."

Ha!

No, securing your site and making sure your stuff stays yours is common sense and is, most generally, keeping your shit together.

Good luck. Dry roads and open skies to you all!

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I'm just back from a 16 week, 12,500 mile trip in my van hauling an off-road trailer, with extended camp stays in various types of places. I have a ton of stuff that people might want to have.

Over four months of using the same gear in a bunch of different ways and in different settings, things naturally developed into a routine of sorts as far as buttoning down camp before going for a long bike ride or running into town for supplies. I didn't have a single problem with anything going missing, whether base-camping, on back roads, in truck stops, rest areas, hotel lots for the night, or parked in big cities. Oh, other than a removable tail-light on my bike, and I'm not sure if that was taken or fell off.

That I had nothing go missing in sixteen weeks doesn't mean I think I'm safe anywhere now. It means that what I've been doing to be aware of my surroundings and keeping an eye on my gear is working. I keep thinking of other ways to make everything even easier and more secure.

If I'm heading out from camp and my van is staying on-site, it usually feels like its simple presence deters potential trespassers, as anyone walking by doesn't know if I'm inside the van or not. Same with some ground tent set-ups. If I'm walking or riding away as some stranger is going by--especially when in busier areas--I sometimes yell back "Hey, going down to the store, be right back!" even though there is no one in the van or tent. Gives the illusion someone is on-site. Or "Killer, watch the site, boy!" works, too. This is especially good when in the city and parking.

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If I'm taking the van off-site I tidy up and secure things a bit more before I go, even if only intending to be away for a short while, as anyone who has seen my van in camp and now sees me drive away knows they can zip over there real quick and grab whatever before I get back. So, I don't make it easy for them to grab it.

I straighten up camp and don't leave items laying about like camp and kitchen tools or clothing. My fridge/freezer is always in the back of my van, and the van is typically locked up if I'm away for more than a few minutes, so I don't have to worry much about the fridge or van being messed with. It's a quick easy sweep of camp, too, to put things away into the back of my van or trailer and lock things up, or into the ground tent and zip it up. I tend to store things in the same place so it's usually easy and quick to tidy up before leaving and get things out again when I return.

As for the trailer, it has a Max Coupler hitch which makes it more difficult to just hook up and go, and I keep Bolt 5/8" Receiver Locks (keyed to my ignition key) in both the trailer end and the van end of the hitch at all times, whether the trailer is hooked to the van or not. That further deters would-be trailer thieves. I hate having a mess of extra keys that I need to use daily, so absolutely love these receiver locks, keyed to accept my ignition key. The trailer, when in camping mode, usually has a big-assed awning deployed as well as a roof-top tent popped up and a galley table installed onto the side, so not exactly quick to haul off if someone is trying to be quick.

The tonneau cover on the trailer is a hard-rolling cover and made of titanium. No one is going to simply slash it with a knife to gain access to cargo. It locks nicely into place when the tailgate is up.

To secure the tailgate, I have a simple CURT Coupler Lock securing the right latch hasp. When in place, it's pretty damned difficult to get anything in there to cut the bolt. I further secure the tailgate with the swing-arm tire carrier, which sort of hides the right latch and is secured by a bolt and cotter pin. I'm thinking about drilling the cotter pin hole larger to accept another CURT Coupler Lock, keyed the same as the other, to even make tailgate opening even more tedious to a thief.

The coupler locks are quick and easy to use. Straightening up camp is generally easy and quick, too. Anything that takes too much time to do or undo, or to stash away or get back out again, is likely not to be done as often, tempting would-be thieves even more.

I've found that not leaving stuff laying around----whether in camp or not--and having a well-kept site that says "this guy's got his shit together" is also a psychological deterrent. If in an area with a ton of strangers walking around, like private campgrounds or some state parks, keep stuff put away, don't let everyone know you have that nice ax or chainsaw, that fancy cooler, or expensive camera. That's just the temptation some people need to come back when they know you're away.

Temptation is what I want to minimize, if not eliminate.

I keep both my van and trailer pretty low-key as far as general appearance and tend not to hang what I call "overland bling" (hi-lift jacks, maxtrax, etc) all over them. That too, being less-obvious as owning a bunch of desired overland bling, makes your site less tempting.

Lastly, if I have visitors in camp or to my rig I think might be casing the place for a later visit, I'll let slip "Yeah, the last guy that messed with my stuff would've been twenty-eight next month. . ."

Ha!

No, securing your site and making sure your stuff stays yours is common sense and is, most generally, keeping your shit together.

Good luck. Dry roads and open skies to you all!

Road
Good stuff. One thing that I did last time I camped was leave a small LED turned on in my tent, in case I was gone past dark. It occurred to me then that a bluetooth speaker left in the tent (quietly playing a book on tape or something) might be a good addition to the "occupied tent" illusion. My wife's gonna call me paranoid, but I might try that next time.
 

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Good stuff. One thing that I did last time I camped was leave a small LED turned on in my tent, in case I was gone past dark. It occurred to me then that a bluetooth speaker left in the tent (quietly playing a book on tape or something) might be a good addition to the "occupied tent" illusion. My wife's gonna call me paranoid, but I might try that next time.
All great info. That was a very detailed description. I think all of that is absolutly a great idea. Thank you

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