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Being that I am new to overlanding i am wondering about how best to use my truck. Now for me being a normal backpacker this is a serious quandary! I'm looking at a RCI rack system for my titan (xd). I like the looks of it and from what I've read it is a good universal style rack. But my serious question is...what the opinion on if you should run a covered sealed bed or just keep the truck bed open and available as usual?? I'm guessing that if left open then many of the options for storage and camping may be lost? Anyway what's y'alls thoughts? Thanks!
 

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I am trying to find solutions all the time to keep my bed covered. The other option if you have to leave it open would be to run waterproof totes and storage bags. It's not easy to do, but if you get creative its definitley doable.
 
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there's a thread on here already about that, but i looked and can't find it. you might find it later on and get more info from it.
i went with a shell and small camp trailer. the cap is nice and i set it up for storage and platform to sleep, so the wife and i can take the truck solo or use the trailer or both. sometimes we use the camp trailer as base camp on long trips and then park it at a camp ground and go off to hard to get to places and sleep in the shell and then return and get the camper and move to another location. if the kids come, they can tent or sleep in the shell and we're in the camp trailer. setting up a cap for storage and sleep is pretty easy...i made my own platform and love it

another great thing is that sometimes we travel fast and light and say its 2am and i get tired. i can pull over at a rest area or truck stop, etc and hop in the back and sleep. no tent to deploy or totes or move since everything is in the drawers. in less than 2 minutes, i can wake up, hop out the back, put on my shoes and be driving again with nothing to stow or break down.

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Nice Tundra/setup @grubworm. I ran my Tundra (RIP) with and without a canopy as well as a hitch mounted motorcycle carrier. With the canopy I appreciated keeping my load "dust-free" and the ability to sleep under it when the WX was disagreeable. Having to unload the bike to get into the canopy was a pain and "odd size" loads could be out of the question with canopy on. Maneuvering your larger items is likely to be easier w/o canopy as you can stand in the bed and lug things around. And you can get bigger loads in w/o canopy. I should dig up a pic of that one time we shoved everything from one blown up truck into two other loaded trucks.

My $0.02 ;) Have a great day!
 

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Nice Tundra/setup @grubworm. I ran my Tundra (RIP) with and without a canopy as well as a hitch mounted motorcycle carrier. With the canopy I appreciated keeping my load "dust-free" and the ability to sleep under it when the WX was disagreeable. Having to unload the bike to get into the canopy was a pain and "odd size" loads could be out of the question with canopy on. Maneuvering your larger items is likely to be easier w/o canopy as you can stand in the bed and lug things around. And you can get bigger loads in w/o canopy. I should dig up a pic of that one time we shoved everything from one blown up truck into two other loaded trucks.

My $0.02 ;) Have a great day!
thanks! yeah, there are some drawbacks. i have a couple utility trailers so i just use one to haul odd shaped stuff or plywood and lumber from lowes. having the cap does require ANOTHER trailer for hauling oddball stuff and space to park it, so definitely not a good option for some. personally i like the look of an open bed truck better, but the wife really likes the shell and it is pretty practical for the way we do things. it does create more blind spots when driving...
 

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I've run with an open bed, hard tonneau cover and a topper (cap, shell, etc). First off, I'll say no matter which option you go with, the load is going to be secured essentially the same way. Just because you have it covered, doesn't mean you can just toss everything in the back and head off down the trail.

Open the obvious issues is weather and security. Yeah, you can still sleep in the bed, but it's weather dependent. Also, all of your stuff has to be weatherproof. This is not my first choice. True that even with a topper or a tonneau cover, it's still fairly easy to break in, some are better than others (DiamondBack).

I then switched to a Ridgelander Overlander tonneau cover. This is a rigid cover that also has a Rhino Rack built in. It was great for keeping the weather out. It's not watertight, in fact you'll have to do your own mods to make any bed cover watertight. Loading and unloading was a real PITA up near the bed. You get really tired of crouching down to access everything. You are also limited on the height of everything you carry. You have to be really picky on which storage boxes, refrigerators, etc. that you carry. The pro is the lower overall height of the truck bed. I've been in situations where I was able to get the cab past an obstacle, only to have the truck shift or the angle make it so a topper would hit the obstacle. As for sleeping in the bed, again you are limited to the weather. I suppose you could sleep with the cover closed, just feel claustrophobic to me. I did have one thought of adding tent-like material to the sides of the cover so that when it was open, it would almost be like a hard-shell roof top tent.

I currently use an ATC topper which includes a Rhino Rack roof rack with a 500-pound capacity. I have plenty of room. I like that I have windows that can open for ventilation. I've got lighting built-in and insulation on the roof and sides. A sliding window still gives me a little access to the cab. The biggest pro is that I'm not limited on the height of the gear that I carry. Obviously height is also a con, as I mentioned above. You really have to think about your line and placement so you don't damage it on the trail. While they do come off fairly easy, it does make it more difficult to use your truck as a truck (also true with tonneau covers.) My only regret is that I wish I had went with side windows that hinge open from the outside (windoors). This would make it was for me to access stuff towards the front and side of the bed without opening the back (maybe even a little rain protection).20181004_204214.jpg20190604_084007.jpg
 

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Being that I am new to overlanding i am wondering about how best to use my truck. Now for me being a normal backpacker this is a serious quandary! I'm looking at a RCI rack system for my titan (xd). I like the looks of it and from what I've read it is a good universal style rack. But my serious question is...what the opinion on if you should run a covered sealed bed or just keep the truck bed open and available as usual?? I'm guessing that if left open then many of the options for storage and camping may be lost? Anyway what's y'alls thoughts? Thanks!
I'm a backpacker as well and also in the process of slowly setting up my truck for overlanding. My plan is to get a bed cover (currently looking at the Diamondback bed covers) and then a rail system (currently looking at the KB Voodoo rail system) and put a roof top tent on that. A bed cover has the advantage of keeping your gear covered and protected from the elements and secured for daily driving (such as going into the store). The downside is that you limit the available vertical space, so it would be difficult to use it for sleeping. But, for my purposes in the short term, I have all of my backpacking gear so it doesn't bother me since I carry a lightweight tent anyway.

The Diamondback bed cover is nice because it is quickly removable if you need the vertical space for moving large objects.
 

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I'm a backpacker as well and also in the process of slowly setting up my truck for overlanding. My plan is to get a bed cover (currently looking at the Diamondback bed covers) and then a rail system (currently looking at the KB Voodoo rail system) and put a roof top tent on that. A bed cover has the advantage of keeping your gear covered and protected from the elements and secured for daily driving (such as going into the store). The downside is that you limit the available vertical space, so it would be difficult to use it for sleeping. But, for my purposes in the short term, I have all of my backpacking gear so it doesn't bother me since I carry a lightweight tent anyway.

The Diamondback bed cover is nice because it is quickly removable if you need the vertical space for moving large objects.
You'll be happy with that setup. Those DiamondBack covers are really nice and well built. Those are the only ones that I would consider to be truly secure. Plus they have the added benefit of being able to haul a heavier load on top of the cover.
 
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I've run with an open bed, hard tonneau cover and a topper (cap, shell, etc). First off, I'll say no matter which option you go with, the load is going to be secured essentially the same way. Just because you have it covered, doesn't mean you can just toss everything in the back and head off down the trail.

Open the obvious issues is weather and security. Yeah, you can still sleep in the bed, but it's weather dependent. Also, all of your stuff has to be weatherproof. This is not my first choice. True that even with a topper or a tonneau cover, it's still fairly easy to break in, some are better than others (DiamondBack).

I then switched to a Ridgelander Overlander tonneau cover. This is a rigid cover that also has a Rhino Rack built in. It was great for keeping the weather out. It's not watertight, in fact you'll have to do your own mods to make any bed cover watertight. Loading and unloading was a real PITA up near the bed. You get really tired of crouching down to access everything. You are also limited on the height of everything you carry. You have to be really picky on which storage boxes, refrigerators, etc. that you carry. The pro is the lower overall height of the truck bed. I've been in situations where I was able to get the cab past an obstacle, only to have the truck shift or the angle make it so a topper would hit the obstacle. As for sleeping in the bed, again you are limited to the weather. I suppose you could sleep with the cover closed, just feel claustrophobic to me. I did have one thought of adding tent-like material to the sides of the cover so that when it was open, it would almost be like a hard-shell roof top tent.

I currently use an ATC topper which includes a Rhino Rack roof rack with a 500-pound capacity. I have plenty of room. I like that I have windows that can open for ventilation. I've got lighting built-in and insulation on the roof and sides. A sliding window still gives me a little access to the cab. The biggest pro is that I'm not limited on the height of the gear that I carry. Obviously height is also a con, as I mentioned above. You really have to think about your line and placement so you don't damage it on the trail. While they do come off fairly easy, it does make it more difficult to use your truck as a truck (also true with tonneau covers.) My only regret is that I wish I had went with side windows that hinge open from the outside (windoors). This would make it was for me to access stuff towards the front and side of the bed without opening the back (maybe even a little rain protection).View attachment 150752View attachment 150753
Very nice!! That type of set up with the open out side windows is definitely one of the ideas I like. I know I am gonna run a RTT so storage and accessibility is dependent upon my bed. I do plan on putting a luggage rack above my cab.
 

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I'm a backpacker as well and also in the process of slowly setting up my truck for overlanding. My plan is to get a bed cover (currently looking at the Diamondback bed covers) and then a rail system (currently looking at the KB Voodoo rail system) and put a roof top tent on that. A bed cover has the advantage of keeping your gear covered and protected from the elements and secured for daily driving (such as going into the store). The downside is that you limit the available vertical space, so it would be difficult to use it for sleeping. But, for my purposes in the short term, I have all of my backpacking gear so it doesn't bother me since I carry a lightweight tent anyway.

The Diamondback bed cover is nice because it is quickly removable if you need the vertical space for moving large objects.
I'll have to look into that bed cover. I've considered a roll up style cover.
 
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You'll be happy with that setup. Those DiamondBack covers are really nice and well built. Those are the only ones that I would consider to be truly secure. Plus they have the added benefit of being able to haul a heavier load on top of the cover.
I've heard a lot of good things about them. I've heard they're about to release a new version without the diamond plate design, but that's likely on hold due to the pandemic and the related shut downs. I'm curious as to what it is and if there's any differences other than a design change.
 

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I'll have to look into that bed cover. I've considered a roll up style cover.
The problem I have with most roll-up style covers is that they take up a lot of room when rolled up, whether they roll up on top or underneath. If it's the latter, then you permanently lose the space because of the housing unit that it rolls into. Just something extra to think about, if it matters to you. If not, they may be a good solution for you.
 

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I run a Leitner designs bed rack and love it. One of the things I like most about it is the ability to slide the rear cross bar forward. So you can stand up bikes, fridges or your RTT that becomes detached on the trail. One reason why I didn't go for a topper was because I still use my pick up to haul stuff and a topper didn't work for me.
 

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I run a Leitner designs bed rack and love it. One of the things I like most about it is the ability to slide the rear cross bar forward. So you can stand up bikes, fridges or your RTT that becomes detached on the trail. One reason why I didn't go for a topper was because I still use my pick up to haul stuff and a topper didn't work for me.
Yeah I still need to use my truck for a truck sometimes. I have bikes, kayaks, and work stuff I have to carry around, among other things!
 

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I have a modular system. I use the Yakima OverHaul HD System. I love the ease of removal and carrying capacity. In the picture you can also see a modified lift (Onrax) that I use to just lift the whole thing up and out of the way when I want to use my truck as a truck.
 

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