GVM / GCVM 4runner

[Icculus]

So I'm working on building out my 4runner for overlanding and while I may have missed it I see lots of talk about gear but not alot of talk about about weight; specifically staying under gvm and gcvm. I'm currently working out how to build out my 4runner and whether to try and cram everything in the vehicle vs an adventure trailer with a lot of weight distributed to towing. Based on specs the curb weigh of a 2020 off road premium is 4750 lbs with a gmwr of 6300 lbs. That leaves 1550 lbs or play if I pack everything on the runner itself. The tow capacity is 5000 lbs but; and I'm probably reading wrong; i can't seem to find a combined weight for the vehicle and trailer. Does anyone have any insight on this? My guess, and possibly wrong; is that most completely decked out 4runners for overland are over weight but can't find numbers that would a) subsantiate this or b) help me plan out my build. Any help appreciated. Cheers

 

[Tundracamper]

Below is a snip from the 2019 owner’s manual. I take that to mean the GCWR is the max vehicle weight plus 5,000 lbs. I’m not sure how else you would read it, bit I could certainly be wrong.

 

[Dilldog]

So I'm working on building out my 4runner for overlanding and while I may have missed it I see lots of talk about gear but not alot of talk about about weight; specifically staying under gvm and gcvm. I'm currently working out how to build out my 4runner and whether to try and cram everything in the vehicle vs an adventure trailer with a lot of weight distributed to towing. Based on specs the curb weigh of a 2020 off road premium is 4750 lbs with a gmwr of 6300 lbs. That leaves 1550 lbs or play if I pack everything on the runner itself. The tow capacity is 5000 lbs but; and I'm probably reading wrong; i can't seem to find a combined weight for the vehicle and trailer. Does anyone have any insight on this? My guess, and possibly wrong; is that most completely decked out 4runners for overland are over weight but can't find numbers that would a) subsantiate this or b) help me plan out my build. Any help appreciated. Cheers

I'm glad to see you are thinking about this. There are a few threads in the last year where we have discussed GVWR and GCVWR. Try searching for vehicle weight etc. I think the really big discussion on this topic is in Rig Q&A.

 

[Dilldog]

Below is a snip from the 2019 owner’s manual. I take that to mean the GCWR is the max vehicle weight plus 5,000 lbs. I’m not sure how else you would read it, bit I could certainly be wrong.

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The door decal should list GCVWR but it should be as you described. Just bear in mind that your trailer tongue weight is part of you vehicle weight, and most specifically rear axle weight. There's a lot that goes into properly loading and balancing a rig.

 

[Icculus]

Thanks for the feedback...I'm still debating and doing calculations in my head but if this helps anyone thought I would throw it up. All weights are approx. This is just a rough list for my own calculations and maybe get others thinking..


2020 4runner
curb 4750
gvwr 6300

weight to play with 1550 lbs

gobi stealth 70 lbs -- ladder included ?
bud built sliders 94 + 24 dimple die
CBI offroad fully kitted -- 250 lbs
jerry can water 5gallon -- 41.7
jerry can fuel 5 gallon -- 31.5
dometic 75 duel zone - 61.3
skykamp 2x -- 120
me -- 260
rci skids -- steel 117, aluminum 67
rci gas skid -- 26
rago rear molle 40
SSO front bumper --- 40 after stock cutaway
23zero peregrine 270 -- 51
Goose gear rear plate system -- 35
goose gear fridge stove slider -- 89

1340.5

Free weight 209.5 lbs